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Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:18 am to elposter
It's an interesting position battle. Curious to see how it turns out, my money is still on Vinnie playing more defensive snaps than Collins.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:19 am to crimsonsaint
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Bama fans greatly overhyped VinnieBadger last summer.
He's a solid player. I don't recall anyone claiming he'd be an All American
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:21 am to elposter
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He should still have a role in certain packages.
what I was thinking.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:24 am to GCTiger11
quote:He changed roles a bit and was responsible for more pass protection this past year. He is very solid in run support but was exposed in coverage which is not something we really saw in 2011.
Bama fans greatly overhyped VinnieBadger last summer.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:40 am to bopper50
Yes and he is going to be a stud. People really overblow the fact that he didn't get a lot of playing time last year. If you've followed Saban at Bama, you would know that most of his stud DB recruits have gotten limited playing time in their true freshman year playing mostly on special teams and in the end of blowouts. Dre Kirkpatrick, HaHa Clinton-Dix and Mark Barron were all brought along like that. The only true freshman DB who has gotten a lot of playing time under Saban was Dee Milliner and that was due to the fact that the secondary lost their top 3 DBs the previous year and Menzie tore his ACL. Milliner was forced into duty way before he was ready and it showed. Collins will be the starter and I'll be surprised if he doesn't become one of the best players on the Bama defense by season's end.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:43 am to Bench McElroy
He was a great special teams player, too. Really showed out in the BCSNC game. Blocked a punt or two in the regular season if I am not mistaken.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:05 pm to GCTiger11
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Bama fans greatly overhyped VinnieBadger last summer.
Yes. there was a lot of quality trolling done using Vinnie as the bait.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:35 pm to bona fide
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I'm still a believer in Vinnie and think he will see considerable playing time the rest of his career at Bama.
He will, and he'll be a solid contributor but it takes some seriously crimson colored glasses to not see he's got limitations in pass coverage.
He's going to be a Will Lowery type guy - and that's not a bad thing except that he's in a secondary full of NFL draft picks.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:43 pm to JustGetItRight
people are forgetting about jarrick williams. he was in the mix to start get before he got hurt. was a 4 star guy coming out of high school, top 5 at his position in 2010
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:48 pm to narddogg81
Nope ....3rd string
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:51 pm to narddogg81
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was a 4 star guy coming out of high school, top 5 at his position
Yes, but this is like the entire roster. It doesn't mean as much at Alabama.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:38 pm to elposter
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Nope ....3rd string
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was a 4 star guy coming out of high school, top 5 at his position
Yes, but this is like the entire roster. It doesn't mean as much at Alabama.
true, but the question is who is going to start. williams has 3 years of knowledge of the system. people are speculating about who will start, a true sophomore who played primarily on special teams or a 27 year old who has been out of football for almost 10 years, but not the 4 star with 3 years in system and who was getting starting consideration last year? if we know anything about saban, its that he will play the guy who knows the plays over more talented guys who dont.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 2:47 pm to bopper50
The LC obsession by some LSU fans seems to be a bit much.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:34 pm to GCTiger11
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Bama fans greatly overhyped VinnieBadger last summer
Not me, I knew that kid sucked
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:36 pm to CrimsonCoast
I guess obsession is asking a legitimate question and starting a discussion.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:41 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
quote:Thank you - Vinnie is a solid player in run support - he's a head hunter and can lay the wood.
He changed roles a bit and was responsible for more pass protection this past year. He is very solid in run support but was exposed in coverage which is not something we really saw in 2011.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:42 pm to CrimsonCoast
quote:What obsesseion? OP just asked a question.
The LC obsession by some LSU fans seems to be a bit much.
To be honest, I've seen very little viritrol towards LC by the LSU fans.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:43 pm to wood78221
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Not me, I knew that kid sucked
From what I saw the kid was a BEAST on ST and damn good player in run defense. Any DI kid that gets a scholly should probably be omitted from the "SUCKS" group.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 3:46 pm to Vlad
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From what I saw the kid was a BEAST on ST and damn good player in run defense.
He is a damn good player. He was pushed into a different role last season, and he struggled at times. But, if he is allowed to go back to ST & run defense packages we'll see that beast again.
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