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re: Slightly different expansion discussion

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Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:48 am to
No. The ACC and Big 12 are both marginalized and really meh beyond a few teams, with a lot of clunkers thrown in the mix. I like the current conferences. The SEC will never be dethroned.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Slightly different expansion discussion



Bert is still fat?
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:17 am to
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The ACC and Big 12 are both marginalized and really meh beyond a few teams


This. The only 3 stable conferences are the SEC, Pac 10, and Big 10. I believe the ACC will survive, but the Big 12 will ultimately get cherry picked to help some conferences get to 16. We will ultimately end up with 4 16 team power conferences.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:20 am to
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1. The ACC, Big 10, Big 12, and PAC each maintain all of their current members. I know, not likely, but it opens up a different conversation.

2. The SEC does not bring in a new member from an existing SEC state.

3. The SEC expansion only includes adjacent states.


Option 1: Kickout Vandy and UK and go back to 12
Option 2: add Tulane and SMU. 2 easy wins and restores and in-state rival.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 9:21 am
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:25 am to
I understand when the SEC expands it will be Duke and UNC and the decision has been made already. This came up when Maryland left the ACC and the agreement for Maryland to leave included some provisions for Duke and UNC to go to the SEC. This is based on Duke and UNC adding to the SEC Basketball structure.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:25 am to
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Option 1: Kickout Vandy and UK and go back to 12




Kick out Vandy and you lose #1 academic school in the SEC
Kick out UK and you lost the #1 basketball school int the SEC and nation

As Vandy created the SEC and UK ran it in the early years you are short sighted and possibly a slow coach. Did you ride the short yellow bus as a child?
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:29 am to
There are no new angles on this topic. The only board with an active realignment discussion is ShaggyBevo.
Posted by throwingoranges
Member since Jul 2014
555 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

hey were fun in the 60's and 70's, as they have their own version of drinking and floating down the river. Thought that was a big deal in Missouri, or at least Killz made it seem so.


Yes. Float trips are a big deal in Missouri. The only downside is that most of the best spots are in the dry counties that border Arkansas... it takes some serious logistics at times to overcome.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:41 am to
Did UNC and Duke agree to this decision already being made?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:22 am to
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quote:

This. The only 3 stable conferences are the SEC, Pac 10, and Big 10. I believe the ACC will survive, but the Big 12 will ultimately get cherry picked to help some conferences get to 16. We will ultimately end up with 4 16 team power conferences.


The 16 team conferences are a pipe dream. They just don't work, and you can't force people to take teams they don't want.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5896 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:26 am to
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Take away that one rule and my pick is ECU and UCF. Central Florida is easily the school with the biggest potential of the non-Power 5s.



ECU has excellent potential, but they're a geographical outpost. There also the only school in NC that gives a shite about football, so there's that.

Agreed on UCF.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:58 am to
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drinking and floating down the river. Thought that was a big deal in Missouri, or at least Killz made it seem so.


It is. And if you've never floated down a clear, cold, spring-fed river with a cooler full of beer, you should put it on the list.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:01 am to
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The only downside is that most of the best spots are in the dry counties that border Arkansas...


Missouri doesn't have dry counties.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:06 am to
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The only boards with an active realignment discussion are ShaggyBevo and the Rant via some daily thread.

This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 11:07 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:06 am to
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It is. And if you've never floated down a clear, cold, spring-fed river with a cooler full of beer, you should put it on the list.


Then you should put tubing the Little Miami with some mostly naked Redhawks coeds who I am pretty sure can drink most on here under the table (Seriously, the women in southern Ohio are some beer drinking women) on your list.
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:39 pm to
None of those schools fit because the SEC tends to favor large flagship public Universities or brand name private schools (Vanderbilt)...

If Notre Dame was in the South, then maybe.. but alas, they're not.

But if I had to.. Cincinnati and ECU.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58126 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:58 pm to
Notre Dame would be the #1 dream choice but I highly doubt they would ever be willing to join the SEC.

Of the schools on the list I'd say Cincy and East Carolina b/c of the populations in their states and how it would aid the SECN.

Also, I'd rather have James Madison move up than take Old Dominion if a non ACC Virginia team was in play.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
58126 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Option 2: add Tulane and SMU. 2 easy wins and restores and in-state rival.


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Posted by Brosef Stalin17
Member since Sep 2014
1090 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 2:21 pm to
I say we go back to 12
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19194 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 2:46 pm to
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Assuming the following constraints, pick your top two candidates for SEC expansion to 16 teams.


Good Lawd...why did we let Missouri in???
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