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re: Should Auburn have kept Malzahn?

Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:00 pm to
Fwiw, Malzahn has had a much, much better record during that time than Auburn, at a much worse program.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10564 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:00 pm to
Corrected
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3178 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:02 pm to
No problem brother. I have a hard time believing it's been this bad too.
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3194 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

1. Georgia - 42-2 (.955)
2. Alabama - 36-6 (.857)
3. Ole Miss - 29-10 (.725)
4. Tennessee - 27-12 (.692)
5. LSU - 26-14 (.650)
6. Kentucky - 24-15 (.615)
7. Missouri - 23-16 (.590)
8. Mississippi State - 21-17 (.568)
9. Texas A&M - 20-17 (.541)
10. Arkansas - 20-18 (.526)
10. South Carolina - 20-18 (.526)
12. Florida 17-21 (.447)
12. Auburn 17-21 (.447)
14. Vanderbilt 9-27 (.250)



And with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma it's probably gonna stay the same pecking order wise. Auburn will struggle to get out of the bottom half of the league.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25221 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:10 pm to
This is a troll thread, and not a great one, but I'll bite.

Yes. Look Gus had a really good run on the plains but by the time they fired him he was pretty well done.

Nobody was doing what he was doing when he got into college football. Then some were doing it. Then everyone was doing it. Then everyone figured out how to stop it.

He still had a fantastic run and we should respect that. His problem is he can't adjust his system to the modern era. That happens. Auburn hasn't struck gold since replacing him, but they were right to swing for the fences in replacing him.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36661 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:15 pm to


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Auburn hasn't struck gold since replacing him, but they were right to swing for the fences in replacing him.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:16 pm to
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He still had a fantastic run and we should respect that. His problem is he can't adjust his system to the modern era. That happens. Auburn hasn't struck gold since replacing him, but they were right to swing for the fences in replacing him.
When did they swing for the fences since CGM's been gone?

Harsin was a huge swing 'n miss, and no one knows what Hugh can do at Auburn. Hell, until they get a high quality QB operating that offense, Hugh doesn't even have the tools to do his best work.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21398 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:17 pm to
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When did they swing for the fences since CGM's been gone?


I’ll assume he meant the $20 million buyout

Firing Gus was the right thing to do. We lost 2 years hiring the wrong replacement
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3194 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:28 pm to
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We lost 2 years hiring the wrong replacement


I think it cost you more than that. Letting him go was the right move but it set off a chain reaction that led to where you are now. I think it set you back a decade or longer.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10564 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:34 pm to
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I hope it set you back a decade or longer.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:39 pm to
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I think it cost you more than that. Letting him go was the right move but it set off a chain reaction that led to where you are now. I think it set you back a decade or longer.
It will have been a decade long setback provided Freeze begins this season putting his signature on that offense. He has to carve out the time necessary to draw up the game plans and then get to work calling the plays in live action.
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3194 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:44 pm to
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I hope it set you back a decade or longer


No need to project, it is what it is. Basically you dug a hole and kept digging. It's just gonna get harder to get back into the top half. I don't think Freeze is your answer FWIW.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21398 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:46 pm to
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I think it set you back a decade or longer.


No way. Not in this day & age

Harsin burned some bridges in the high school ranks but Freeze has already repaired those.

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I don't think Freeze is your answer FWIW.

I think he was the perfect fit. Should’ve hired him in 2020. But who the hell really knows?
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10564 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:53 pm to
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I don't think Freeze is your answer FWIW.


Neither do I long term but he's what we need to turn the boat quickly.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17321 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:56 pm to
had we known in 2020 what was going to happen with NIL/portal then yeah, firing Gustav was a huge mistake

the ugly truth is, we are never going to compete with the Bama/UGa/LSU/Michigan/UTx/tOSU tier of programs ever again

we will be lucky to reach the F$U/Clemson/OU/Southern Cal/Penn St tier occasionally

we had a good run from 1983-2017 where we could keep up with the big dogs, but thats over now

only comfort is that 90% of D1 aren’t any better off than we are
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21398 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3178 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:01 pm to
I mean he went 6-7 last season and the team looked worse than ever to end the season. And somehow they're bringing back the QB despite that being one of the biggest shortcomings of the team.

Not that quickly I guess.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:12 pm to
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Literally none of those numbers come from Malzahn. 1/3 of them do come from your current coach though.


Yes, one year of fielding a roster that would be mediocre at the Jacksonville St./App St. level of football.

Courtesy of the downhill recruiting slide that Malzahn started and Harsin put into overdrive.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:18 pm to
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And somehow they're bringing back the QB despite that being one of the biggest shortcomings of the team.



QB wasn't the major problem last year. He hit guys in the hands with passes all year long. We had a bunch of receivers who couldn't catch a fuzzy Nerf ball with velcro gloves if it was soft-tossed to them.

We beat both UGA and UA last year if our WRs catch the easy TD passes they dropped.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5179 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 4:28 pm to
Dude.. you LITERALLY JUST ASKED FOR STATS????
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Leto II

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I would love to see this moron of an alter show some stats
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