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re: September 26, 2011 is when I stopped respecting the Texas A&M Football Program

Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by buckRogers
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2014
1835 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:19 pm to
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A very uncompetitive rivalry


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Neither side really cares to be honest


Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:25 pm to
Response thread.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Jackie was cleared by the NCAA of all wrongdoing at A&M


bullshite. More aggie lies.

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To answer any doubts about Sherrill's character, Templeton flew to Kansas City and met with an NCAA official who had worked on the A&M
case.

Sherrill claimed to have a letter clearing him of any personal involvement in the scandal, and Templeton wanted to find out ''if the letter was indeed factual.''

David Berst, the NCAA's head of enforcement, confirmed that he had written a letter to Sherrill, but he had only been ''responding to a question'' posed by the coach.

''When I've heard about this letter,'' Berst says now, ''it's been cited as exonerating ((Sherrill)), but it doesn't do that. It simply states that he wasn't named directly in serious violations.''


Sports Illustrated

"The athletics director" was named several times in the NCAA probation reports, though. That was Jackie Sherrill.

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Posted: September 10, 1988

COLLEGE STATION, Texas — Texas A&M's football team was barred from bowl games this season and placed on two years' probation yesterday after the NCAA found that the school had violated at least 25 rules.

The penalties, outlined in an order from the National Collegiate Athletic Association, also cut the number of scholarships the school may offer incoming players next year, cut the number of visits recruits may make to the school's campus and reduced the number of coaches who are allowed to make recruiting visits.

In addition, the NCAA placed Jackie Sherrill, the athletic director and football coach, on administrative probation for two years.

Chicago Tribune
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:52 pm to
OK...

How does A&M get to claim the small college line from the 60's and 70's when their enrollment was larger than several powerhouses of that era like OU, Bama and Ark? Just because that they have smaller enrollments than their primary rival does not absolve the fact that they were in fact a large enrollment school for that era.

Additionally, the complaint that A&M was an all male school during those years should actually be something that should have helped by providing a greater pool of athletes. If they have a larger enrollment and a greater proportion of Males to Females on campus then they should also have a greater overall pool of perspective athletes.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:00 pm to
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OK... How does A&M get to claim the small college line from the 60's and 70's when their enrollment was larger than several powerhouses of that era like OU, Bama and Ark? Just because that they have smaller enrollments than their primary rival does not absolve the fact that they were in fact a large enrollment school for that era. Additionally, the complaint that A&M was an all male school during those years should actually be something that should have helped by providing a greater pool of athletes. If they have a larger enrollment and a greater proportion of Males to Females on campus then they should also have a greater overall pool of perspective athletes.


all-male military institution with mandatory membership in the Cadet Corps until 1964

How many athletes with aspirations of being a pro do you know that would go to a school were they forced you to be in the military?
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:49 pm to
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all-male military institution with mandatory membership in the Cadet Corps until 1964

How many athletes with aspirations of being a pro do you know that would go to a school were they forced you to be in the military?


Army was No. 1 during the 1958 season, finished No. 3.

Army 1958

Army had a Heisman Trophy winner that year. Pete Dawkins

Navy finished No. 2 in 1963 (lost to Texas in Cotton Bowl) LINK

Navy also in 1963 featured Heisman-winner Roger Staubach.

All of that came during peace time. No wars ongoing. The Aggies were terrible during that time, except for Bear Bryant's rogue years (which landed the aggies on NCAA probation. See the pattern?)
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:30 pm to
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After losing 9 out of 12 to Big Brother Texas and being owned historically by Texas (76-37 ) ....Texas A&M little brothers put their tail between their legs and run away to the SEC quitting the series. Rumor is that Texas A&M still owes Texas money.


A&M has a much better record against LSU, then it does against Texas or Arkansas, so you may be right!

Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:35 pm to
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all-male military institution with mandatory membership in the Cadet Corps until 1964

How many athletes with aspirations of being a pro do you know that would go to a school were they forced you to be in the military?


1964.. How do you explain the rest of the 60's and 70's? Being a much larger school than OU, Ark and Bama at that point should have put A&M at least on an equal footing as far as potential talent-base goes.

This is the entire issue with idea that A&M has had major historical limitations. These limitations are in fact disingenuous when viewed through the lens of the the rest of the nation at the same time.

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