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Seeing how there are basically no rules on transferring, paying players, etc…
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:06 pm
What is preventing a kid from playing 6-7 years (or more) of college football or basketball? As example -
The “sit out a year” transfer rule never had any foundation in logic. Supposedly it was to “allow the student time to acclimate to new school” when really it was a means to benefit coaches. Now though, the NCAA is basically allowing kids to transfer whenever a kid wants, because the NCAA knows that if challenged in court about the transfer rule, they will lose.
So is the “rule” that a kid has 5 years to play 4 any different? If some kid is making $300k in NIL but has already played his NCAA mandated maximum years of football but wants to play more college football and earn that money, does the NCAA have a legal leg to stand on to tell him he can’t?
The NCAA loses every case they are involved with because their rules deny basic rights. If a kid wants to continue to take classes (cough, cough) and play for 6+ years, how could the NCAA stop him if it’s legally challenged?
The “sit out a year” transfer rule never had any foundation in logic. Supposedly it was to “allow the student time to acclimate to new school” when really it was a means to benefit coaches. Now though, the NCAA is basically allowing kids to transfer whenever a kid wants, because the NCAA knows that if challenged in court about the transfer rule, they will lose.
So is the “rule” that a kid has 5 years to play 4 any different? If some kid is making $300k in NIL but has already played his NCAA mandated maximum years of football but wants to play more college football and earn that money, does the NCAA have a legal leg to stand on to tell him he can’t?
The NCAA loses every case they are involved with because their rules deny basic rights. If a kid wants to continue to take classes (cough, cough) and play for 6+ years, how could the NCAA stop him if it’s legally challenged?
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:09 pm to Toneski
We can keep following this rabbit hole and ask…..
Since kids are now getting paid to play, they are professionals, so what prevents an NFL player who has been cut from his team, from coming back to college and playing and getting paid?
Since kids are now getting paid to play, they are professionals, so what prevents an NFL player who has been cut from his team, from coming back to college and playing and getting paid?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:09 pm to Toneski
Academic progress criteria in the NCAA
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:12 pm to Smokeyone
it’s all about to change..
it will be a full blown lower level NFL in no time.. maybe college names are used to keep the fans.. but it’s all going to change
unfortunately
it will be a full blown lower level NFL in no time.. maybe college names are used to keep the fans.. but it’s all going to change
unfortunately
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:15 pm to Smokeyone
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Academic progress criteria in the NCAA
APR applies to “student athletes receiving financial aid”. A kid making $300k in NIL doesn’t need financial aid and wouldn’t be counted in the APR.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:16 pm to BigBro
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it’s all about to change..
What do you mean.
What is about to change and when ?
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:24 pm to Radio One
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What do you mean. What is about to change and when ?
all the rules
all that we know
that is my opinion
i think there will be a new league
with equal revenue sharing
between “schools” and “players”
a college draft
possible NFL affiliation
possible trades of draft picks
endless possibilities..
none of which are good for the college game I love.. but I’m sure I will still watch if it is tied to Texas.. but it’s gonna be different
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:30 pm to Toneski
Eligibility ends when going pro but who knows how it will go if taken to court.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:30 pm to BigBro
Thank you
And thank you for writing it as a poem
A good poem
Interesting thoughts
I think I will check out pretty soon
And thank you for writing it as a poem
A good poem
Interesting thoughts
I think I will check out pretty soon
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:22 am to Toneski
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APR applies to “student athletes receiving financial aid”. A kid making $300k in NIL doesn’t need financial aid and wouldn’t be counted in the APR.
You are looking at it wrong. The the APR and graduation success rates are different than individual academic progress towards a degree requirement.
But again UGA might be onto something. The eligibility clock of 5 to play 4 only begins when you enroll full time. Since the requirement to play does not include full time enrollment, just 6 hours with milestones thrown in, it would be feasible for your clock to not start until your 2nd year in school.
In theory you could dress out with the team for summer, spring, and winter doing 6 hours a term on scholarship or NIL for 2 years as long as you picked up an extra 12 hours in short terms(ie maymester). That would keep you hitting your 40% by the end of year two without starting your clock. So you could in theory leave at the end of your 3rd year without a degree, completely eligible without every enrolling as a full time student with your 5 to play 4 intact for a different sport. You could literally pay for the best clinic/ coaches for private workouts, do 6 hours of class online, attend the schools practice, utilize the S&C and nutrition programs and show up for game day.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:13 pm to Smokeyone
They will eventually be able to play into their 40's.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:25 pm to Smokeyone
quote:Programs aren't going to agree to be saddled with players that just won't leave. There are roster limits that have to be managed. Who the hell wants players who aren't good enough to make the NFL loitering around on the roster for years?
You are looking at it wrong. The the APR and graduation success rates are different than individual academic progress towards a degree requirement.
But again UGA might be onto something. The eligibility clock of 5 to play 4 only begins when you enroll full time. Since the requirement to play does not include full time enrollment, just 6 hours with milestones thrown in, it would be feasible for your clock to not start until your 2nd year in school.
In theory you could dress out with the team for summer, spring, and winter doing 6 hours a term on scholarship or NIL for 2 years as long as you picked up an extra 12 hours in short terms(ie maymester). That would keep you hitting your 40% by the end of year two without starting your clock. So you could in theory leave at the end of your 3rd year without a degree, completely eligible without every enrolling as a full time student with your 5 to play 4 intact for a different sport. You could literally pay for the best clinic/ coaches for private workouts, do 6 hours of class online, attend the schools practice, utilize the S&C and nutrition programs and show up for game day.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:36 pm to BigBro
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it’s all about to change..
Yep. Minor league teams with college branding.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:15 pm to RT1941
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Programs aren't going to agree to be saddled with players that just won't leave. There are roster limits that have to be managed. Who the hell wants players who aren't good enough to make the NFL loitering around on the roster for years?
a different scenario for sure, but I'd take Camback.
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