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re: Seeing a bunch of spring football threads. Are you happy with your team so far?

Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:26 pm to
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He can throw it through a brick wall that’s for sure.


The accuracy issue in his 1st year at Tennessee was a product of coming in for summer and not having the WR relationship. In Heupels system QBs and WRs need to see and react to the same keys and without spring camp and the offseason that relationship just wasn’t there. And the fact he threw full speed when he was nervous didn’t help.
In year 2 he had a respectable 65% completion rate in mop up duty and in the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68% of his passes in a convincing win against a decent defense.

He has never been a running threat and likely never will be, and Huepel likely will not ask him to do designed runs. It’s not a balance issue but rather a mindset issue. But that’s ok because Tennessee has something it hasn’t seen in a long time….RB depth.

But I get it, UGA fans are unfamiliar with decent much less good QB play. So I can see how these things would leave y’all bewildered.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:29 pm to
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He looked good vs Clemson, but that doesn’t mean he is what smokeyone claims he is.


I doubt you understand what I’m saying to be honest. Still looking for DJs breakdown of UGA football through spring, or answers to anything I posed in the original post in this thread, in regards to UGA. I would say maybe you could watch your son play football as a means understand it a little better but let’s be honest, you haven’t had pussy since pussy had you.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58927 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:02 am to
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In year 2 he had a respectable 65% completion rate in mop up duty and in the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68% of his passes in a convincing win against a decent defense.


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But I get it, UGA fans are unfamiliar with decent much less good QB play. So I can see how these things would leave y’all bewildered.


This seems odd since Bennett threw for 4,000+ yards and a 68.3% completion rate. Those stats would be off the charts in UT fans head for Milton, yet sub par for a Georgia QB. You can't make this up.

Honest question. If Milton throws for 68.3% and over 4,000 yards what do you think Tennessee's record will be? Your trope was always Bennett was bad and we survived on our defense. Tennessee does not have a very good defense.

The hoops you jump through to make yourself feel better.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:32 am to
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year 2 he had a respectable 65% completion rate in mop up duty and in the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68% of his passes in a convincing win against a decent defense.


Hilarious. This kind of double standard, hypocritical contradiction is why you try so hard to avoid real football discussion , but you just can’t help yourself.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by Aguga
Southeast
Member since Aug 2021
2026 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:40 am to
I forgot you like to write books.

Let me help you.

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But I get it, UTk fans are unfamiliar with decent much less good football teams. So I can see how these things would leave y’all bewildered.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11131 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:07 am to
Who knows, man. Our spring game was pouring rain and 40°. Couldn’t tell a damn thing from watching it.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 12:23 pm to
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The accuracy issue in his 1st year at Tennessee was a product of coming in for summer and not having the WR relationship. In Heupels system QBs and WRs need to see and react to the same keys and without spring camp and the offseason that relationship just wasn’t there. And the fact he threw full speed when he was nervous didn’t help.
In year 2 he had a respectable 65% completion rate in mop up duty and in the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68% of his passes in a convincing win against a decent defense.

He has never been a running threat and likely never will be, and Huepel likely will not ask him to do designed runs. It’s not a balance issue but rather a mindset issue. But that’s ok because Tennessee has something it hasn’t seen in a long time….RB depth.

But I get it, UGA fans are unfamiliar with decent much less good QB play. So I can see how these things would leave y’all bewildered.


You're leaving out his actual first start in '22 where he went 11/21 (52.4%) for only 147 yards against lowly Vandy.

Milton will do very well against a lot of teams this year, but he's going to struggle against defenses with a pulse.

He's got ELITE arm strength and can make throws look easy that other QBs can't even attempt. With that being said, he's a thrower and not a quarterback. He lacks the ability to be accurate on a consistent basis and he's unable to process what he's seeing fast enough to take that next step. He's Anthony Richardson without the running ability.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:05 pm to
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You're leaving out his actual first start in '22 where he went 11/21 (52.4%) for only 147 yards against lowly Vandy.


It’s like you missed “the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68%”. From the Hooker injury to Vandy was not enough time to implement a Milton plan and it wasn’t necessary (Vols would have blown out Vandy with me at QB).
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:25 pm to
How exactly did the vol O plan change from hooker to Milton?
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:28 pm to
I think LSU is gonna be pretty good.

We shall see.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:33 pm to
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How exactly did the vol O plan change from hooker to Milton?


More huddles, fewer QB runs, adjustments to route timing and depth, more reps at 1 with the WRs, a slower more deliberate game plan than with Hooker.

If you like you can watch the Clemson game in comparison to Hooker in the Pitt game for the difference.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:36 pm to
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It’s like you missed “the only game he was set as a starter with a game plan built to him he completed 68%”. From the Hooker injury to Vandy was not enough time to implement a Milton plan and it wasn’t necessary (Vols would have blown out Vandy with me at QB).

So, you're gonna go with the "My coaching staff is so incompetent they didn't have a plan in place for the #2 QB" defense?

Unlikely.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:43 pm to
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More huddles, fewer QB runs, adjustments to route timing and depth, more reps at 1 with the WRs, a slower more deliberate game plan than with Hooker.


This is redundant, and certainly not very convincing of major strategy change in passing downfield.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:01 pm to
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This is redundant, and certainly not very convincing of major strategy change in passing downfield.


I’m sorry you are too simple to understand football.
Posted by ThisisAggieland
A&M does not fall far, it rises
Member since Sep 2022
1586 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:02 pm to
I’m not going to lie, our spring game was meh
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:07 pm to
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So, you're gonna go with the "My coaching staff is so incompetent they didn't have a plan in place for the #2 QB" defense?


Scoreboard: 56-0 510 plus yards of O on 17 minutes of O. I believe the opponent and game plan were adequate. They had a bowl game with bowl prep to put in a plan for Milton.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16160 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:08 pm to
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I’m not going to lie, our spring game was meh


They usually are, how was the two weeks of spring practice? That will tell you more than a glorified scrimmage.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 7:15 am to
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More huddles,

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WRs, a slower more deliberate game plan


Redundant

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fewer QB runs


A very minor adjustment, not even worth mentioning in this context

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more reps at 1 with the WRs


Not a game plan adjustment

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adjustments to route timing and depth


Not a game plan adjustment
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:06 am to
Muscle Hamster
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 5:44 pm to
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So, you're gonna go with the "My coaching staff is so incompetent they didn't have a plan in place for the #2 QB" defense?


But muh they had to add huddles!
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