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re: Seeing a bunch of spring football threads. Are you happy with your team so far?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:54 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:54 am to Smokeyone
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So all those points scored were from 20+ yards out? Interesting.
For the most part. The DBs were inconsistent on a legendary scale. Too young/inexperienced /playing out of their natural position etc. that’s why Josh brought in 7 DBs in the 23 class and 5 in 22. It’s a depth issue that’s being addressed.
You do realize that Tennessee gave up the 8th most redzone TDs in conference.
And 58th most red zone TDs in the country (27)
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:40 am to meansonny
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:54 am to Smokeyone
I saw the same stats on cfbstats.
You do realize that the TD allowed in the red zone Stat doesn't help your argument and is a pretty valid data point regarding ranking a defense.
Your link (which rates scoring percentages) is true but not a better data source to the quality of the Tennessee defense.
You do realize that the TD allowed in the red zone Stat doesn't help your argument and is a pretty valid data point regarding ranking a defense.
Your link (which rates scoring percentages) is true but not a better data source to the quality of the Tennessee defense.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:06 am to meansonny
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You do realize that the TD allowed in the red zone Stat doesn't help your argument and is a pretty valid data point regarding ranking a defense.
Not germane to why a team would settle for a field goal after being kept out multiple times? And Tennessee’s defense was terribly inconsistent all year but they had a pretty decent redzone D. Banks passed it off as bend but don’t break but reality was the DBs were not SEC ready or deep enough.
quote:thank you.
Your link (which rates scoring percentages) is true
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:14 am to Smokeyone
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but they had a pretty decent redzone D
After 20 years of misery being a Tennessee fan, giving up the 8th most redzone TDs in the conference and 58th most redzone TDs allowed in the country is the equivalent of "pretty decent".
It makes sense knowing where you come from and your perspective.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:23 am to Smokeyone
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Feel free to take it up with the keeper of NCAA stats. Team stats- redzone defense
Congrats on using a weak OOC group to make your overall stats look better.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:41 am to djsdawg
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Congrats on using a weak OOC group to make your overall stats look better.
Ga Tech was 115 in total O, Kent St and Samford are super duper FBS programs right?
Think these thing through before posting them. Vols and UGA both played 1 decent OOC program and 3 cupcakes.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:44 am to Smokeyone
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Ga Tech was 115 in total O, Kent St and Samford are super duper FBS programs right?
Funny how you left off Oregon.
Dawg fans are fine limiting the stats to SEC only by the way.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:15 am to meansonny
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Funny how you left off Oregon.
Read further down slick, both played 1 decent P5 team and 3 cupcakes. Oregon was 10-3 while pitt was 9-4.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:41 am to Smokeyone
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Read further down slick, both played 1 decent P5 team
So Pitt and Oregon are equivalents.
I thought you were referencing conference and national statistical strengths.
Now you want to avoid that reference.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:06 pm to meansonny
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So Pitt and Oregon are equivalents.
Not absolute equivalents, but really? Oregon was a quasi home game, 1st game for a coach ever, playing his old team, with a throw away QB(at the time) and was nowhere neither what they were after a few games. While Pitt was a true road game, against an established program. There records are a game apart and both are in second tier conferences. For the purposes of this discussion they are both decent Power 5 programs.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:12 pm to Smokeyone
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Smokeyone
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:28 pm to Smokeyone
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Think these thing through before posting them. Vols and UGA both played 1 decent OOC program and 3 cupcakes.
The difference is where and when each team did their damage:
- vols chose the weak OOC teams and Garbage time.
- Uga chose top 25 teams and non/garbage time.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:48 pm to djsdawg
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Uga chose top 25 teams and non/garbage time.
Both played a decent P5 program. UGA benefited from it being a quasi home game, 1 game as a HC for Lanning, new system, new QB, etc. they were a different team later than they were week 1.
Would you agree that was the case?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:55 pm to Smokeyone
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So they had time to trot the FG team out
Not enough time for 2 plays. Only Time for one last play.
Where did all of that time go?
Come on. Give us your take.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:09 pm to djsdawg
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Not enough time for 2 plays. Only Time for one last play
AKA settled for a field goal… given the option to run or pass for a couple yards or a FG attempt at point blank range, they chose the FG. Time was not a factor, downs were not an issue. There wasn’t time for Tennessee to do anything if they didn’t score the TD so it wasn’t a field position issue.
It was a straight up what do you, try a FG attempt or a TD. They settled for a FG. Plain and simple. They had time to implement any play in the playbook or attempt a FG.
Did this draw it down simple enough for you?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:31 pm to Smokeyone
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Time was not a factor,
How so? We literally kicked on 3rd down because time was a factor.
“Not enough time for 2 plays. Only Time for one last play”
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:38 pm to Smokeyone
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Both played a decent P5 program.
Sure, but That’s beside the point.
The vols did worse against SEC and top 25 opponents.
This proves they stat racked against the lower level teams.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:03 pm to Smokeyone
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given the option to run or pass for a couple yards or a FG attempt at point blank range,
Which option was NOT available?
1. Run on 3rd down
2. Pass on 3rd down
3. FG on 3rd down
4. FG on 4th down
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:12 pm to djsdawg
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Which option was NOT available? 1. Run on 3rd down 2. Pass on 3rd down 3. FG on 3rd down 4. FG on 4th down
Ergo the drive stalled and Kirby settled for a FG.
I can lead you this conclusion as often as you wish, it’s up to you to accept it.
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