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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:09 pm to
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I have family ties to Duke, ie two grandparents were professors. However those bastards can die in a fire against UF.
You shouldn't talk about your grandparents that way.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:09 pm to
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It was real clear they wanted it. And he absolutely has no reason to hang his head, he's the reason we were even in the SEC CCG to begin with.



Yep, only fear I have his this loss affecting them in a negative way. Hopefully they just use it as a building block.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:10 pm to
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You shouldn't talk about your grandparents that way.


Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:13 pm to
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Wilbekin

Is he going to be drafted?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:19 pm to
Probably not. Gonna make a great living overseas though.
Posted by King Tiger Tank
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:21 pm to
I can't believe Kentucky came back only to lose by a point. damnit
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:22 pm to
Great game and UK showed that they are growing up now. Almost got us...but the basketball Gods were with us. # 4 Patric Young is a beast...I know Wilbekin is too...but Young just exudes passion and determination.

I think UT & UK can go deeper in the tourney..especially UK. Good luck to both.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:13 am to
Not trying to troll but Julius Randle was horrible today. I think he was the single reason UK lost today. He was non existent out there and a turnover machine. I really don't see a lot to his game. I'm not sure why he's projected as a lottery pick? I see him, then see Wiggins or Parker and they seem much more advanced right now. Could be that UF plays tough defense but he looked really bad out there today.

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@pennington_jl 5m Aaron Harrison and Julius Randle joined Wilbekin, Young, Stokes and Michael Frazier on the All-Tourney team.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:24 am to
The guy had 20 double doubles this year. He had a 17 point 16 rebound game against LSU in the first round. He can handle the ball at 6'9". Plus he is absolute monster physically. Plus he has an insane motor. He could produce in the NBA tonight.

He faces more double and triple teams than anyone in the country, so teams try to turn him into a distributor, which he isn't that great at. Plus you are allowed to play zone and pack the paint in college.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:30 am to
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SECCG ESPN Kentucky 60 Florida 61 FINAL

Not trying to troll but Julius Randle was horrible today. I think he was the single reason UK lost today. He was non existent out there and a turnover machine. I really don't see a lot to his game. I'm not sure why he's projected as a lottery pick? I see him, then see Wiggins or Parker and they seem much more advanced right now. Could be that UF plays tough defense but he looked really bad out there today.

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Well...UF has made a lotta folks look bad with our defense...it sucks the life out of teams and that's why we win. Randle is up against a senior in Patric Young for a lot of the game and its no contest really...Randle may leave early...but if he stayed in college til he was a junior he would Mr Everything in basketball.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:37 am to
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Well...UF has made a lotta folks look bad with our defense...it sucks the life out of teams and that's why we win


This

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Randle is up against a senior in Patric Young for a lot of the game and its no contest really


I actually think he went up against Prather most of the game. Young was usually guarding WCS or Dakari Johnson.

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Randle may leave early


He is 100% gone, but the only thing that could convince him to stay would be for a possible tournament run next year. He mentions how much he wants to win a championship all the damn time it seems like.

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but if he stayed in college til he was a junior he would Mr Everything in basketball.


Would be completely unfair, especially considering he is going to be surrounded by shooters next year which would help spread the floor immensely. What is crazy is that he has been putting up monster numbers with basically no right hand.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:02 am to
It will be interesting to see what happens after the tournament, who stays and who goes. I expect one surprise either way.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:07 am to
Double-doubles aren't that big of a deal in ncaa. How does that translate at the next level? You mention that he can handle the ball? I don't see it. I've seen him turn the ball over numerous times when he takes more than a few dribbles. He seems to have only 1 move, puts his head down and bowls over the defender to the rim. Then he can't finish, his only recourse seems to get to the free throw line (where he even struggles at that). Motor? I've seen him gassed more times than not. He doesn't have a mid range, he doesn't have a 3 point jump shot, he doesn't have any low post moves. He couldn't produce tonight, what makes you think he will produce in the NBA? Sure it was one bad game but I'm trying to see the skill set that others are seeing?

I see a guy that pushes and grabs a lot in order to get a rebound or force up a shot. His arms look short and he doesn't have a lot of hops. His defense is average to poor (could be a result of overall team effort). He's an undersized PF and not good enough shooter to be a SF. I don't see a lot of real basketball skill.

From your post below, what translates to the NBA?

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The guy had 20 double doubles this year. He had a 17 point 16 rebound game against LSU in the first round. He can handle the ball at 6'9". Plus he is absolute monster physically. Plus he has an insane motor. He could produce in the NBA tonight.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:27 am to
You definitely aren't trolling

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Double-doubles aren't that big of a deal in ncaa.


He tied a freshmen double double record with Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins. These are both all-star level NBA players.

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ou mention that he can handle the ball? I don't see it. I've seen him turn the ball over numerous times when he takes more than a few dribbles.


They use him to help break the press. He can handle the ball just fine.

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He seems to have only 1 move, puts his head down and bowls over the defender to the rim.


Welp your an idiot

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Then he can't finish, his only recourse seems to get to the free throw line (where he even struggles at that).


Go flip on the Michigan State film bud. The guy can finish just fine.

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Motor? I've seen him gassed more times than not.


He is gassed because he is usually working his arse off. How do you not get that?

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He doesn't have a mid range


He does. He just doesn't use it. Anthony Davis had a great looking mid-range jumper in college, but you never really saw it because it wasn't their best play offensively. With the new rules and his ability to handle the ball they are much better off with him attacking the rim forcing fouls. He is 19 years old these things can be improved upon. It isn't like he has a broken jump shot or anything.

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he doesn't have any low post moves.


Holy retard batman

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He couldn't produce tonight,


Yes he could and every NBA scout in America would tell you the same thing.

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what makes you think he will produce in the NBA?


Because I am not a fricking hater like you and realize how ridiculously talented the kid is.

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I see a guy that pushes and grabs a lot


God damn dude

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he doesn't have a lot of hops


You couldn't be more wrong

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He's an undersized PF


No he isn't

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I don't see a lot of real basketball skill.


Because you are a fricking hater and seem to lack basic basketball understanding. I've read way too much of your ignorant gibberish these last couple days to realize just how dumb you when discussing this guy.

I will gladly discuss with you how I don't think a lot of guys on Kentucky's roster are ready for the NBA. Julius Randle is the only one I feel like is ready for the NBA.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140436 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:22 am to
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Welp your an idiot


This is my favorite on this site no matter who does it.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41321 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:33 am to
I agree with the bama guy. He has immense talent, but Donovan has figured out how to defend him while Cal stands over there pouting. Cal hasn't helped him out at all imo.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:56 pm to
Once again, only my opinion and yes I could be wrong but I don't see him nowhere near Davis and Cousins in talent. Willie Cauley-Stein looks like a better pro to me. He puts it together mentally and he's going to be great in the NBA.

Not sure why you're taking it so personal. I don't hate Randle. I have no agenda against him. I just don't think his game will translate at the next level.

A quick google search comes up with a few articles that all say what I'm saying. Here's one that compares him to Vonleh, who I have not seen play.

LINK

Here's another article talking about concerns with him as a PF. It talks about his low wingspan, his bully ball that won't work in the NBA. It also talks about his lack of defense.

LINK

I even question his basketball IQ.

Here's another thread. It questions him just like I have and his ability at the next level.

LINK

Defensively, Randle's lack of verticality presents more obvious challenges. College blocks and steals haveproven a surprisingly strong indicator of how well a player will translate to the next level, and no player with Randle's combination of limited defensive impact (0.3 spg, 0.8 bpg) and high turnover rate (3.1 turnovers/game) has ever panned out in the NBA.

Feel free to keep calling me stupid, etc. I'm not emotional about it.

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He tied a freshmen double double record with Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins. These are both all-star level NBA players.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119150 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:01 pm to
You guys still jelly after escaping with the win. Unreal.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:41 pm to
3-0...

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You guys still jelly after escaping with the win. Unreal
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