re: SEC top offense for 2013

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They had Gus Malzahn as the OC in 2011 and the offense that season wasn't much better than what it was in 2012.

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Take into consideration that Auburn had just lost Lee Ziemba, Ryan Pugh, Byron Isom, Mike Berry, Cam Newton, Kodi Burns, Darvin Adams, Terrell Zachery, Josh Bynes, Nick Fairley, Zac Etheridge, Mike McNeil, Craig Stevens, Zach Clayton, Antoine Carter, etc. You do not typically lose around 31 players from a National Championship team and expect to be an offensive juggernaut. Yes, I am aware that I also named defensive players. They made more stops allowing 2010's offense more chances at yards and points. 2009's offense set records for Auburn in Gus Malzahn's first season, remember.

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You mean the middle of the pack defense? We'll be fine. We won't have the super stars but based on who we have (not getting in depth, on my phone) we shouldn't have a drop off.

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So in a thread about offense, ypou ignore the whole paragraph I wrote about your O and the first thing you bring up is the tiny part that I threw in there about defense? And besides, you lose Jones, Ogletree, Jenkins, Kwame Geathers, and a few more who were all MAJOR contributors. you dont just shrug off losing players like that and say "we shouldn't have a drop off."

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That said our offense will more than likely improve, which is scary.

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Why? Your O-line, though experienced, still hasn't proven themselves, your QB is still the same one that loses every big game, you lost Malcom mitchell and Michael bennet will be comning off a torn ACL, and Mark Richt loves to come up short.

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You know the difference bw tenn and uga? You had Dooley and no depth.

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Well we still managed to be 2nd in the SEC in total offense. And we managed to put up 45 on your defense. Yes, having Dooley was a handicap, but depth was never our problem on offense.

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Um.... What?

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Dude, come on. Since 2009 when you had Stafford and Knowshon, I havent heard UGA fans shut up about how "this is their year." Not to mention ESPN sucks ya'lls dick. Why don't ya'll try winning the SEC before you talk about winning a Natty.

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again you had Dooley, zero depth, and the furthest thing from a leader you could be at quarterback.

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No, depth wasn't a problem on offense. Yes, we had Dooley, and a shitty QB, but we still managed 18th in the nation in total offense. Better than you.

And before you go off about how you still beat us, or we went 5-7, or we suuuuck, just remember that this thread is called top OFFENSE for 2013.

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So in a thread about offense, ypou ignore the whole paragraph I wrote about your O and the first thing you bring up is the tiny part that I threw in there about defense?

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Because the crux of your post was about how you need more than an offense.

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Kwame Geathers, and a few more who were all MAJOR contributors. you dont just shrug off losing players like that and say "we shouldn't have a drop off."

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Yeah we lost those players but our defense was mediocre. I feel like a few of them (Jenkins, Rambo, Geathers) were playing for the pros and not for the team.

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Why? Your O-line, though experienced, still hasn't proven themselves,

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Our o-line did proven itself last year. They GREATLY exceeded expectations. It was one of our strengths down the stretch. Don't just assume shite.

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your QB is still the same one that loses every big game, you lost Malcom mitchell and Michael bennet will be comning off a torn ACL, and Mark Richt loves to come up short.

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How is our record breaking quarterback a liability to our offense? He is going to break numerous SEC passing records.

Malcolm Mitchell is a junior, dipshit. Michael Bennett tore his acl mid season, he'll come back fine. It's not like his speed is what made him a great receiver.

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Dude, come on. Since 2009 when you had Stafford and Knowshon, I havent heard UGA fans shut up about how "this is their year." Not to mention ESPN sucks ya'lls dick. Why don't ya'll try winning the SEC before you talk about winning a Natty.

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Stafford and Moreno left after '08. We were ranked preseason #1, we had plenty of reason to be excited. Since then I have not seen any large contingent of dawg fans claiming it to be "our year" this last year we had a large number predict us to get back to the SECCG and only drop 1-2 in the regular season (WG made a thread on it you can check it out for yourself). Basically what you're doing here is taking what your idiot friends or co-workers or whoever say and apply it to our entire fanbase. Oh and last I checked we've had 2 sec titles since your last one.

I swear I'm arguing with a 12 year old.

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and even Ole Miss

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What in the frick? I watched that piece of shite offense suck against Auburn last year from the 30
Yard line. It was painful. No way ole miss should be considered in any preseason offensive list.

Georgia's defense was overrated last year. With all of that talent on the defensive side of the football, teams scored 20 or more points in 8 games last season. There were also 4 instances of teams scoring 30 or more points.

That wasn't a very stout defense.

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Light years ahead? Alabama may have the best WR in the conference next year. Yeldon and Gurley are way better than any RB on TAMU's roster, and the OL's are all very comparable. Oh and Alabama's QB just won his 2nd national title.

Let's be realistic here.

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It's hard to compare the A&M RB's to Bama or UGA's because of the "problem" of having a QB that led the SEC in rushing. It wasn't like the A&M RB's didn't have a high YPC, they just spread it around. A&M has 2 former 5 Stars next year that will be Sophomores and the returning starter in Malena who is a true all purpose back. Bama's QB is excellent but he won the NC because he had the best defense in the country helping him out. I don't think any sane person would take McCarron over Manziel either.

It's pretty "realistic" to assume the school that led the Conference in Total O and returns it's Heisman Trophy winning QB (that set the SEC Total O records for a game and a season last year) will once again be the best offense in the SEC. If anything Manziel has more talent around him for the coming year and he won't have to spend the first half of the season adjusting to the offense. A&M also averaged about a touchdown more per game than Bama/UGA and nearly 100 yards of Total O. Why is that going to suddenly change?

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Bama and A&M lose their OLs.

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A&M returns 3 of 5 starting OL from last year. I have no idea about Bama.

Bama returns 2 of 5 starting OL from last year (and is losing their starting TE).

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Bama returns 2 of 5 starting OL from last year (and is losing their starting TE).

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And the ones coming in have significant playing time under their belts. My only concern is if true freshman OJ Howard will see significant playing time and if he can be an effective blocking TE. We already know what he can do with his hands but Bama needs TE's that can run block as well.

See 2012 Bama/UGA as our TE's were keeping Jarvis Jones out of the game.

Already pretty much answered but it would be very surprising if A&M had much of a dropoff at all on the OL. Matthews is as good of an OT as their will be in college football next year and was and All American/Projected 1st Rounder last year. The other 2 returning starters are monsters that will also likely play in the NFL and will be RS Juniors. Mike Matthews will start at C next year and he was the backup all last season and all indications from pedigree to early results are that he will be a major stud. Then there are about half a dozen guys that will battle it out for the open starting role, all of which have been very impressive. A&M tends to bring the new guys in at Guard and move the more experiences ones to Tackle so it is hard to say who will start at which position other than Jake Matthews at LT and Mike Matthews at C, though Jarvis Harrison is likely to stay at Guard.

It also is important to realize that because of Manziel's scrambling ability and the nature of the offense life is easier for an OL at A&M. For instance DL's can't just bull rush Manziel unless they want to watch him run by them. The pace A&M plays at also makes life easier for them (though they are in incredible shape) because it puts a ton of pressure on DL's to adjust quickly.

Another huge variable that will affect the OL for next year is we finally got a true TE in Cam Clear at 6'6 285 that can catch the ball. He is a JUCO Transfer that was formerly at UT and was mentioned by Sumlin as the biggest impact guy of the early enrollees already on campus. Last year A&M essentially either had an HBack or a 3rd Tackle in TE situations so having a guy his size that is a receiving threat and can block really gives A&M more looks on offense.