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Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:05 am to Golfer
LSU.
And LSU lost to BOTH Kentucky and Arkansas and went to the BCSNC in 07.
Florida lost to Ole Miss in 08 and went to the BCSNC
What's your point?
And LSU lost to BOTH Kentucky and Arkansas and went to the BCSNC in 07.
Florida lost to Ole Miss in 08 and went to the BCSNC
What's your point?
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:06 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:06 am to genro
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And LSU lost to BOTH Kentucky and Arkansas and went to the BCSNC in 07. What's your point?
Did we play UK or Arkansas for the NC?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:08 am to Golfer
quote:You think you select teams for the NC based on who they might play? That doesn't make sense.
Did we play UK or Arkansas for the NC?
So, if LSU had suddenly been put on probation with a bowl ban, Bama could've been ranked ahead of OK State and that would've been fine? But because Bama was gonna play LSU they couldn't go.
You don't select teams for a Championship based on who they might play. That's completely ridiculous. You select a team based on that team. ND was already locked in for the BCSNC before we even knew who they were gonna play. This proves that.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:12 am to genro
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Bama could've been ranked ahead of OK State and that would've been fine? But because Bama was gonna play LSU they couldn't go.
Where did I say that?
I'm saying, from an LSU fan's perspective, the 2011 regular season was rendered practically useless when we were paired with y'all for a rematch.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:13 am to Golfer
quote:But that's just not so because Alabama won 11 games in the regular season, which was as many or more THAN ANY OTHER TEAM aside from LSU. Those 11 wins happened, and if they hadn't, Bama wouldn't have gone. Ergo, the regular season meant a lot.
I'm saying, from an LSU fan's perspective, the 2011 regular season was rendered practically useless when we were paired with y'all for a rematch.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:17 am to genro
OK State also had 11 wins. As did Stanford, Boise State, Houston, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, and VA Tech.
Shouldn't they all have had the chance to play LSU to see if they could beat them? Alabama couldn't.
Shouldn't they all have had the chance to play LSU to see if they could beat them? Alabama couldn't.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:19 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:19 am to Golfer
quote:And in 07 there were multiple teams with 2 losses, and in 03 there were multiple teams with 1 loss. In those years, LSU got the draw based on various factors. Why can't the same be true for Alabama in 2011?
OK State also had 11 wins. As did Stanford, Boise State, Houston, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, and VA Tech.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:20 am to genro
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Why can't the same be true for Alabama in 2011?
And we're back to square one...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:21 am to Golfer
quote:Neither of these sentences make sense.
Shouldn't they all have had the chance to play LSU to see if they could beat them? Alabama couldn't.
The first sentence: LSU should have had to play 6 straight teams and if any of them won, they would be champs? The season would last forever, and it wouldn't really be fair to LSU.
The second sentence can't be supported whatsoever as it was proven wrong on the field, undeniably.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:24 am to Golfer
Stanford lost after we did.
Oklahoma State lost to a 6 and 6 team.
Wisconsin was 10 and 2 in the regular season last year, they lost back to back to Ohio State and Michigan State.
Virginia Tech lost 23 to 3 against Clemson.
A 1 loss Boise State, Houston, or Southern Miss aren't even in the conversation over a one loss Alabama who lost to the number 1 team by 3 points in overtime.
Oklahoma State lost to a 6 and 6 team.
Wisconsin was 10 and 2 in the regular season last year, they lost back to back to Ohio State and Michigan State.
Virginia Tech lost 23 to 3 against Clemson.
A 1 loss Boise State, Houston, or Southern Miss aren't even in the conversation over a one loss Alabama who lost to the number 1 team by 3 points in overtime.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:24 am to Golfer
quote:Because you have no argument... I'm sorry that LSU wasn't the best team in 2011 and had to play Alabama twice. But there was nothing wrong or shady about it. It's just the way it happened.
And we're back to square one...
You don't select teams based on who they might play. Now going from this obvious fact, you have to subjectively choose the best team from a field, which is the same way LSU was chosen in both 2003 and 2007.
So, yeah we're back to square one, because you have no real argument. You're just unhappy about having to play Bama in the 2011 BCSNC, and then getting beat. But that doesn't mean it was wrong.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:30 am to genro
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Because you have no argument... I'm sorry that LSU wasn't the best team in 2011 and had to play Alabama twice. But there was nothing wrong or shady about it. It's just the way it happened.
I never said it was wrong or shady. Just rendered LSU's regular season useless.
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You don't select teams based on who they might play.
Sure you do, and that's what everyone wanted to see. Bama get one more shot at LSU.
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You're just unhappy about having to play Bama in the 2011 BCSNC, and then getting beat.
Eh, I'm over it. I was the next morning. Its just football. I just thought it was funny that you as a Bama fan were trying to lay claim that the CFB regular season is the best out there.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:31 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:33 am to Golfer
quote:Really? LSU won the SEC Championship. LSU got into the BCSNC with a chance to win it all precisely BECAUSE they had a great regular season. Maybe the SEC Championship means nothing to you, and going off that, you know what really rendered LSU regular season useless? Losing in the BCSNC. How would it have been any different if LSU had lost to OKState in the BCSNC? Would your regular season be any less useless? Of course not.
I never said it was wrong or shady. Just rendered LSU's regular season useless.
quote:Again, if Bama had gone 10-2 instead of 11-1, they would have been out. If OK State or Stanford had been undefeated instead of having 1 loss, they would have been in.
Eh, I'm over it. I just thought it was funny that you as a Bama fan were trying to lay claim that the CFB regular season is the best out there.
ONE GAME. The entire season came down to any one game out of 12. It can't possibly be any more meaningful that that.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:34 am to CrimsonFever
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Oklahoma State lost to a 6 and 6 team
This and they didn't play a conference championship game either, that was the deciding factor that allowed Bama to edge them out.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:40 am to genro
Look, we shite the bed in January against Bama. I get it.
Once the teams were announced on the first Sunday in December last year, the "system" said that 11/5 didn't matter. LSU wasn't given credit in the pollsters eyes for that win.
Bama was given credit for losing well.
I'm heading to bed for a few hours though,
Once the teams were announced on the first Sunday in December last year, the "system" said that 11/5 didn't matter. LSU wasn't given credit in the pollsters eyes for that win.
Bama was given credit for losing well.
I'm heading to bed for a few hours though,
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:42 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:42 am to Golfer
quote:No, it said those other 11 wins DO MATTER. Bama won 11 other games, all in absolutely dominating fashion. That happened.
Once the teams were announced on the first Sunday in December last year, the "system" said that 11/5 didn't matter.
quote:LSU got into the BCSNC. How were they not given credit?
LSU wasn't given credit in the pollsters eyes for that win.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:51 am to Golfer
And? We beat Florida in the regular season in 99 and had to beat them again to win the SEC championship, Bama didn't lay down just because they won the first. Florida and Florida State had to play twice and split in 96 was it, Florida winning the NC game.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:15 am to SabiDojo
8-1 for me.
My parents are Louisville grads. I have to root for the 'ville, but it doesn't matter because they have zero chance of winning.
My parents are Louisville grads. I have to root for the 'ville, but it doesn't matter because they have zero chance of winning.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:17 am to Golfer
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Look, we shite the bed in January against Bama. I get it.
Once the teams were announced on the first Sunday in December last year, the "system" said that 11/5 didn't matter. LSU wasn't given credit in the pollsters eyes for that win.
Bama was given credit for losing well.
This makes no sense. The system gave LSU a team to play against in the BCSCG. LSU lost in that game.
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