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re: SEC says Devin White decision will stand (article linked)
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:37 pm to rtr1985
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:37 pm to rtr1985
quote:I don't expect anything to change. But I think it should. Many in the media have pointed out that they need two levels of targeting.
Please elaborate on how LSU will convince college football to change based on your teams sour experienc
But most in here are probably just die hard fans of their own team just like I am and are coming in here to give LSU fans a hard time lol. That's fine. But the reality is, there's something wrong with the rule as it is. Even aTm's coach said this. Something should be done. Regardless of what team you happen to root for.
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:50 pm to RD Dawg
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For fricks sake, are we now going to have “degrees” of a penalty?
Like roughing/running into the punter?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:53 pm to BrerTiger
I will probably be banned from my fanbase for this post but...
I've rewatched the Devin White video a few more times.
I don't see how they overturn this. I don't think it was blantant and would rather it not have been called in the first place but I can now see what Marcus Spears is saying.
It looks enough like targeting based on the rules such as they are.
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White got up into the neck area. You can see his helmet in that area. You can see Fitz's helmet getting rocked. They declared Fitz as a "defenseless player".
If I'm being fully honest, I can see why the league didn't overturn it.
And to Marcus Spears' real point, best not to take that chance and let the refs put you in timeout. He didn't need to take that shot. The QB already released the ball. I don't love the targeting rules at all but everybody has to play by them (well, most everybody).
All that said, God help the refs if they call any targeting fouls on LSU during the Bama game.
I've rewatched the Devin White video a few more times.
I don't see how they overturn this. I don't think it was blantant and would rather it not have been called in the first place but I can now see what Marcus Spears is saying.
It looks enough like targeting based on the rules such as they are.
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White got up into the neck area. You can see his helmet in that area. You can see Fitz's helmet getting rocked. They declared Fitz as a "defenseless player".
If I'm being fully honest, I can see why the league didn't overturn it.
And to Marcus Spears' real point, best not to take that chance and let the refs put you in timeout. He didn't need to take that shot. The QB already released the ball. I don't love the targeting rules at all but everybody has to play by them (well, most everybody).
All that said, God help the refs if they call any targeting fouls on LSU during the Bama game.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:58 pm to BrerTiger
It's a pussy arse rule. I hate it. I wish it had to be way more flagrant than it currently has to be before it's called.
But, you are correct. As the rule is currently, that was targeting.
Sucks for White and the LSU fanbase. It's no ones fault other than the people that created the dumbass rule and Devin White.
But, you are correct. As the rule is currently, that was targeting.
Sucks for White and the LSU fanbase. It's no ones fault other than the people that created the dumbass rule and Devin White.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:00 am to whitefoot
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And at those fools donating money for a fricking billboard in Birmingham. Yeah, cuz that'll show em!
it's so unbelievably retarded
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:01 am to Choupique19
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ke roughing/running into the punter
Or incidental face mask.
Wait...
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:02 am to BrerTiger
quote:It's not even the rule that bothers me. It's the punishment.
I don't love the targeting rules at all
quote:All of this may be true. But is it right to eject a guy for that? Fitz was not at risk of being seriously injured by what White did. And that's what the rule is designed for. It's designed to protect the player from being seriously injured. So there is a clear fundamental problem when you can use the definition of the rule to eject and suspend a player for what White did. Something needs to change.
White got up into the neck area. You can see his helmet in that area. You can see Fitz's helmet getting rocked.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:03 am to MykTide
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It's a pussy arse rule. I hate it. I wish it had to be way more flagrant than it currently has to be before it's called.
But, you are correct. As the rule is currently, that was targeting.
Yeah, as Spears said, "this is the new football".
I also get the conspiracy angle but I'm not gonna get into all that other than the entertainment factor. Might make for some great Mardi Gras floats next Carnival.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:03 am to BrerTiger
Why would the correct call be overturned?!?! Stupid lil corndogs. Watching them get destroyed at home is going to be delicious.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:04 am to MykTide
quote:It's a bang bang play so I don't fault White for it. He tried to hold back. But yes. The rule sucks and needs to be changed.
Sucks for White and the LSU fanbase. It's no ones fault other than the people that created the dumbass rule and Devin White.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:06 am to abellsujr
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Something needs to change.
Probably. But for now, player safety and overreacting to fear of concussions rules the land. That's why the rule exists.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:08 am to rtr1985
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Please elaborate on how LSU will convince college football to change based on your teams sour experience lmao I'd love to see more of this "Biggest shite storm it can imagine", and it's sequel. Just what magical power do you think LSU holds?
Basically put White out there and see if they're willing to cancel a primetime network game.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:16 am to abellsujr
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It's a bang bang play so I don't fault White for it.
Yeah, I don't fault him much. We are asking a *lot* of these guys to have that much control of their bodies while trying to corral the offensive player. But in this case, Fitz had just released the ball (thus defenseless) and the only reason to hit him wasn't to make a tackle but to deal a blow. That can be totally legal but with this rule you can't hit the defenseless player in the head or neck area.
Marcus may have a good suggestion. He said do like the NBA and have a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2.
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In the NBA, you get two flagrant 1 fouls before you’re ejected. But, with a flagrant 2, you are automatically ejected because there was malicious intent.
That could work. What White did certainly wasn't malicious. It's targeting by the letter of the law. If it was a "flagrant 1" type situation, he would've received the memo.
But as the current rule stands, there is zero tolerance and if in doubt, they throw you out.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:27 am to BrerTiger
quote:Exactly. And I think that's something most people can agree on. And no. You probably don't even notice this stuff or care about it until it affects your own team.
Marcus may have a good suggestion. He said do like the NBA and have a flagrant 1 and flagrant 2.
But there's no reason not to change the rule like that. The only reason for not changing the rule I'm getting is "seriousness of a foul does not matter". Which is nonsense. The seriousness of a foul absolutely matters when the foul has an ejection penalty strapped to it. You can't just give that serious of a penalty out for something so small. Keep the rule, just get better control with how it's used.
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:28 am to BrerTiger
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@Brody
Alabama great with the name Brody (or close)
Something to think about.
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 3:32 am to BrerTiger
As a Bama fan I am sorry to hear that. Either way it goes there should be no excuses. Both teams at full strength. All this does is gives LSU a rallying point! At home with an intimidating atmosphere, enraged fans and now an enraged team. But there you go.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 4:54 am to texag7
You’re damn right we’re putting up a billboard.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 4:58 am to spacewrangler
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REC Check has cleared.
Aha! So you admit it, then! Gotcha
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Glad the SEC office has a spine and didn't cave in due to the terroristic Temper tantrum L7u was throwing
Justifiable indignation is the proper term.
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over an obvious righteous targeting call on Daven.
Oh thank goodness. For a second, I thought Devin was ejected. Good thing the blind arse zebras really were blind and called it against the wrong player.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:25 am to abellsujr
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And that's what the rule is designed for. It's designed to protect the player from being seriously injured.
It was designed to get people to stop hitting people in the head.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:33 am to Choupique19
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I’m not sure College Gameday is going to like our students new found love of being as vulgar as possible.
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