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re: SEC 's best QB
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:51 pm to Volmanac
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:51 pm to Volmanac
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Bray ranks first in yards, completions, TDs, fewest sacks, and will be the best pro prospect. DWI
So he might be the best passer, not he's obviously not the best QB. Good QBs find ways to win, no matter what. Johnny fricking Football makes plays.
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
Ye, ye, yea!!!
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:00 pm to Palooza11
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Ye, ye, yea!!!
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
The only acceptable answer is Tyler Wilson.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:14 pm to Duke
Tyler Wilson was the best last year when he had. Childs, Adams, Hamiltion, and Wright. All 4 are NFL WRs. He also had Bobby P, who is one of the most gifted play callers directing that offense.
Without all of that he looks like pretty pedestrian.
If you give give any QB, 4 NFL WRs and Bobby P they will put up solid numbers.
Nobody discredits Wilson for all of those advantages, but are quick to discredit McCarron because of his percieved advantages.
Without all of that he looks like pretty pedestrian.
If you give give any QB, 4 NFL WRs and Bobby P they will put up solid numbers.
Nobody discredits Wilson for all of those advantages, but are quick to discredit McCarron because of his percieved advantages.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:19 pm to BhamDore
Wilson has and has had a shitty offensive line in front of him. Look at the beatings he's taken over the past two years. Even with that, he took advantage of his situation and looked great. That's the mark of a good quarterback.
I'm not one of those people. McCarron is way up there on my list too. He's got the arm, but is smart enough to play within his system. McCarron is the reason I think Alabama is head and shoulders above the rest of the country. You have that dominant defense and an offense than can run and pass. Profit.
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Nobody discredits Wilson for all of those advantages, but are quick to discredit McCarron because of his percieved advantages.
I'm not one of those people. McCarron is way up there on my list too. He's got the arm, but is smart enough to play within his system. McCarron is the reason I think Alabama is head and shoulders above the rest of the country. You have that dominant defense and an offense than can run and pass. Profit.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:26 pm to jddawg58
Tyler Russel...... im back
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:27 pm to MSU5
Oh thats the MSU QB?
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:39 pm to Duke
Offensive line is one of the biggest factors with all the QB's mentioned in this thread. Here is a look at some of the teams lines.
Avg Weight, Heights and years
Bama 314.2 6-4 1/2 So, Sr, Sr, Jr and Jr
Arky 305 6-5 1/2 Jr, So, Sr, Jr and Jr
LSU 322.8 6-5 1/2 Jr, Sr, So, Jr and Sr
A&M 308.6 6-4 1/2 Jr, Jr, So, So and Sr
UT 318.4 6-5 1/2 So, Jr, RSr, Jr and Jr
UGA 310.4 6-3 3/4 Jr, Jr, So, Jr and Fr
USC 308.8 6-5 So, So, So, Jr and Jr
UF 310.2 6-4 Jr, So, Sr, Jr and Jr
Everyone wants to praise Bray so much, but if you look at his line they are one of the oldest and biggest of all these teams. That helps with not getting sacked and allows more time to find WR. Then you look at Murray, who has the youngest line, only team with no Sr on the Oline and only line starting a Fr.
Murray should still be in the conversation despite the USC game. Murray was not as much exposed by USC Defense as the Oline was. If he has time like most good QB's they will make passes and put up numbers.
Avg Weight, Heights and years
Bama 314.2 6-4 1/2 So, Sr, Sr, Jr and Jr
Arky 305 6-5 1/2 Jr, So, Sr, Jr and Jr
LSU 322.8 6-5 1/2 Jr, Sr, So, Jr and Sr
A&M 308.6 6-4 1/2 Jr, Jr, So, So and Sr
UT 318.4 6-5 1/2 So, Jr, RSr, Jr and Jr
UGA 310.4 6-3 3/4 Jr, Jr, So, Jr and Fr
USC 308.8 6-5 So, So, So, Jr and Jr
UF 310.2 6-4 Jr, So, Sr, Jr and Jr
Everyone wants to praise Bray so much, but if you look at his line they are one of the oldest and biggest of all these teams. That helps with not getting sacked and allows more time to find WR. Then you look at Murray, who has the youngest line, only team with no Sr on the Oline and only line starting a Fr.
Murray should still be in the conversation despite the USC game. Murray was not as much exposed by USC Defense as the Oline was. If he has time like most good QB's they will make passes and put up numbers.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:45 pm to RomeDawg11
Bray has the best pass protection and hands down best WR combo in the SEC. His team is always behind as well, so he should have the best stats.
Murray is just missing the killer instinct and will always keep the other team in the game.
The pick 6 and the sack fumble are the reason UT was able to make a game out it.
Murray is just missing the killer instinct and will always keep the other team in the game.
The pick 6 and the sack fumble are the reason UT was able to make a game out it.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:47 pm to RomeDawg11
Bama's best win - Ole Miss or Arky? or UM? Your QB has yet to be tested. I would ask Murray what that's like. However, Geno Smith - makes them all look like rookies.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:48 pm to RomeDawg11
Murray is a fine quarterback, but I haven't seen him reach his potential yet. Thanks in large part to his oline woes.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:45 pm to AUX3
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Bama's best win - Ole Miss or Arky? or UM? Your QB has yet to be tested.
2011 Lsu says hai.
OM is going to beat the brakes off auburn Saturday btw
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:05 am to Riseupfromtherubble
No QB has done more to help his team this season in the SEC,than Connor Shaw. Sorry Fl fans. Driscoll is good but has more to work with,IMO. If you can't see that,you're fn blind. Ya'll Wilson and Bray folks keep throwing in stats. Stats don't win games,but a QB with balls does,least till they get knocked off,lol. I'll reserve judgement on AJ,when he brings us back from a 4th quarter deficit,if that ever happens
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:13 am to RT58
I don't know if Shaw is the best in the league but I do know I don't want anyone else.
Bottom line he is the toughest in this league and can be debated the nation. I don't think anyone can really dispute that.
Bottom line he is the toughest in this league and can be debated the nation. I don't think anyone can really dispute that.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:25 am to thebearju
I could dispute that. Tyler Wilson is tougher than a 2 dollar steak. Driskell looks like a tough kid too. Shaw is tough though, I won't argue that
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:56 am to Tennessee Jed
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fwiw Tyler Bray has the most yards, touchdowns, and been sacked the fewest times.
and is listed as the highest draftable QB from the SEC on CBS sports draft board with a first round draft grade.
offense has not been the problem at any single point this season.
Tyler Brays meltdown at the end of the Georgia game was all I needed to see. Dude isn't clutch whatsoever and is only good when Tennessee is blowing out garbage teams. He won't do shite in the NFL.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:09 am to harmonics
Trent Dilfer was more "clutch" than Dan Marino. GTFO. I hate mouthbreathers.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:11 am to Volmanac
He'll do more in the NFL than anybody else mentioned in this thread, and thats all that matters.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:03 am to Volmanac
Depends what factor you use.
Passing Yards per game
1. Wilson
2. Bray
3. Manziel
4. Murray
5. Russell
Pass Efficiency
1. Shaw
2. McCarron
3. Thompson
4. Manziel
5. Murray
Total Offense
1. Manziel
2. Wilson
3. Bray
4. Murray
5. Russell
TD:INT ratio
1. McCarron
2. Thompson
3. Russell
4. Manziel
5. Murray
Wins as a starter
1. Shaw
1. McCarron
1. Russell
1. Driskell
5. Mettenberger
Passing Yards per game
1. Wilson
2. Bray
3. Manziel
4. Murray
5. Russell
Pass Efficiency
1. Shaw
2. McCarron
3. Thompson
4. Manziel
5. Murray
Total Offense
1. Manziel
2. Wilson
3. Bray
4. Murray
5. Russell
TD:INT ratio
1. McCarron
2. Thompson
3. Russell
4. Manziel
5. Murray
Wins as a starter
1. Shaw
1. McCarron
1. Russell
1. Driskell
5. Mettenberger
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