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re: SEC players from Texas: What's wrong with them?

Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:41 am to
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:41 am to
I feel like LSU dips into Texas and pulls one of the top recruits out of that state. We have some CB's and Safeties from Texas. Along with some offensive guys.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25662 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Texans who are/were major contributors on their SEC West teams outside of Texas A&M
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Russell Shepherd
Posted by Sarcastro
Member since May 2012
1376 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Things are still changing though, you need to remember that Tx recruiting is still ramping up for the SEC, the realignment effects are just starting to show up.

Mizzou has gotten plenty of good Lone Star defenders, we just haven't gotten many of the elite 4-5 star HS kids, so they've taken a year or two to develop. No, we haven't really had a great single defensive team, but some of that may be coaching and scheme though.

If you take the last 6 or 7 years of Tx kids on D for us, you would have, among others:

Micheal Sam
Sean Weatherspoon
Zavier Gooden
Dom Hamilton
Will Ebner
Kip Edwards
Jacquies Smith
Kevin Rutland
Ziggy Hood

all those kids now play in the NFL except for Ebner who probably would if hadn't been consistently hampered w/ a broken foot his last 2 years.


On top of that, our entire backfield last season was Texans. James Franklin at QB. Our three RBs that each had over 600 yards rushing and combined for 2,400 rushing yards and 29 TDs were from Texas. Two of our probable starting WRs for next season are Texans. Three of our probable starters in the secondary are from Texas.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:35 pm to
The 2005 tu defense was pretty salty.

Posted by BDLtiger93
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
108 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:48 pm to
Lsu gets a solid number of recruits from east Texas almost every year.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4240 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
One thing wrong with Texas players is that Bielema can't sign any of them.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:10 pm to
Your gonna need a bigger boat if your gonna use a hook that big.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Your gonna need a bigger boat if your gonna use a hook that big.


I didn't mean it in a negative manner.

The High School football I have seen in Texas provided very high speed, uptempo, high powered offenses. Teams were going with no-huddle 5 wide outs, throwing the "air raid" offense. Teams were also using their own variations of an Auburn and Oregon style offense. It is very similar to Pac-12 football. These high schools were doing these tremendous things on offense, putting up lots of points, and were good at it.

If you look around to Michigan high school football, you'll be watching a variation of the "old Michigan" or Wisconsin style football. Teams lineup with two tight ends and play power run football. The flexbone and wishbone offenses are still popular among Michigan schools. Some teams won't even attempt more than 8 passes a game.

In Texas high school football (offensively), you almost feel like you're watching a Division II team.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80096 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:14 pm to
Top Texas Recruits (2013) - 16/50 SEC (32%)

2-Seals-Jones - A&M
3-Robinson - Alabama
7-Golden - A&M
12-Manning - A&M
14-Smith - Alabama
15-Hall - A&M
17-Gonzalez - A&M
20-Stewart - A&M
22-Wilson - A&M
32-Parker - A&M
36-Walker - A&M
37-Hill - A&M
38-Garner - A&M
43-Wade - A&M
46-Moore - Missouri
50-Ross - Mississippi State

Top Texas Recruits (2014) - 16/50 SEC (32%)

1-Garrett - A&M
2-Brown - Alabama
7-Paris - LSU
9-Iheanacho - A&M
10-Adams - LSU
13-Harvey - A&M
17-Watts - A&M
22-Walker - A&M
26-Alaka - A&M
37-Henderson - A&M
40-Johnson - A&M
41-Upchurch - A&M
43-Washington - A&M
45-Lealaimatafao - LSU
47-Martin - A&M
49-Pruitt - Arkansas

Top Texas Recruits (2015) - 21/50 either SEC or leans SEC. (41%)

1-Murray - A&M
2-Jefferson - A&M lean
3-Mack - A&M
4-Teuhema - LSU
5-Sheffield - A&M lean
6-Thompson - Alabama
7-Lodge - A&M
9-Elbert - A&M
16-Boyd - A&M lean
19-Lockhart - Alabama lean
21-Dormany - Tennessee
28-Pryor - A&M
29-Siverand - A&M
32-Hill - A&M lean
33-Elam - A&M lean
38-Davis - A&M
39-Dunning - A&M
42-Lanfear - A&M
44-Rogers - Arkansas
48-Sutherland - A&M
50-KeKe - A&M

Notice a trend?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:27 pm to
I will agree with that completely. The end result is that offense is worshiped more than defense, so a larger percentage of the best athletes usually end up on that side of the ball for a shot at that glory.

It is all great for the SEC long-term I believe, because SEC West teams (and USC) can eventually sprinkle in finely tuned Texas offensive talent with their local defensive talent for al altogether more competitive league.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:33 pm to
I can only think of 2 players offhand that we've gotten from Texas in the last 10 years. One was a servicable DT and one was an excellent QB.

Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:05 pm to
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It is all great for the SEC long-term I believe, because SEC West teams (and USC) can eventually sprinkle in finely tuned Texas offensive talent with their local defensive talent for al altogether more competitive league.



I agree I think it helps create balance.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:06 pm to
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SEC players from Texas


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What's wrong with them?


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from Texas



I wonder?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:08 pm to
If nothing else the addition of Texas recruiting will improve SEC QB play.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:14 pm to
We have been focusing more on Florida than Texas under Bielema, which is different than what our past coaches have done. But with Partridge leaving and us getting TCU's DB coach we've been focusing on it more now.

It does seem like the players we have gotten from Florida are a lot more athletic though. But Texas will still be a key state for us that we need to continue to recruit well. They have given us some good players
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
That makes sense to me.
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