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Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:21 pm to beaver
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:21 pm to beaver
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Mason Auburn 4.50
Mason had three runs over 50 yards this past season with a long of 53 yards.
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Hill LSU 4.66
Hill had five runs over 50 yards with a long of 69 yards.
Hill is more explosive with better top end speed.
Watch his highlights and see how many times he gets caught from behind. Maybe the forty yard dash times are not as important as production.
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:24 pm to BlackCloud
And everyone knew Tre was getting the ball every play, and they stacked the box
Hill had a somewhat above average passing QB to take the pressure off
So in your examples, it's apples and watermelons
Hill had a somewhat above average passing QB to take the pressure off
So in your examples, it's apples and watermelons
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:29 pm to beaver
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beaver
Hey beaver brains...It didn't stop everybody we played from stacking the box. Auburn keeps defenses off-balance with the threat of the read-option and speed sweep. LSU ran mostly downhill between the tackles. Get a grip
Btw...How many Arky players were invited to the combine?
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:29 pm to deeprig9
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You left out Crowell. 4.50
Alabama State and 4.57 official time.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:37 pm to BlackCloud
quote:Strictly considering combine numbers, Tre Mason is blowing Jeremy Hill away. Tre Mason also outperformed him during the 2013-2014 season and got invited to the Heisman Ceremony. Every category listed below, Tre Mason is superior in. The only thing Jeremy Hill has on him right now, is size. And Tre Mason has proven that durability is not a concern.
Hill is more explosive with better top end speed.
40 yard dash: 4.50 > 4.66
Vertical jump: 38.5 inches > 29 inches
Broad jump: 126 inches > 113 inches
IMO, neither will be 1st round picks, and picking either won't hurt you. Jeremy Hill will likely go before Tre Mason, though.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:38 pm to TTsTowel
I really like Mason... I was just pointing out that 40 yard dash times don't always equate to on-field production. Hill is very big and explosive. Should be interesting to see their careers unfold. 
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:39 pm to TTsTowel
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IMO, neither will be 1st round picks, and picking either won't hurt you. Jeremy Hill will likely go before Tre Mason, though.
That would be a mistake.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:41 pm to SammyTiger
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People talking shite about Landry's 40 need to step back and realize he had a 1000 yard season in the SEC despite being shirts and slow.
Yea because the NFL cares so much about college stats. Dude, he bombed the combine. NFL WR's don't run 4.8 40's. Especially not at his size.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:Maybe, maybe not. We will see. I would take Tre Mason over Jeremy Hill, but that's just me.
That would be a mistake.
Also, Auburn has a great track record of getting running drafted as of late, but they all faced some type of serious injury(ies) once they arrived in the league. Rudi Johnson stayed fairly healthy, but injuries derailed Carnell Williams', Ronnie Brown's, and Kenny Iron's (tore his ACL in preseason of his rookie season for the Cincy Bengals) careers once they were in the league. I am surprised Ronnie Brown has stuck around as long as he has, honestly. Ben Tate is still doing good and should be a starter next year.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:43 pm to BlackCloud
quote:Yea, 4.66 isn't bad for a guy his size. I think he plays faster than that.
Hill is very big and explosive
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:45 pm to TTsTowel
RBs are impossible to project these days.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:45 pm to Monticello
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Yea because the NFL cares so much about college stats
The NFL cares about production. They hate to pick combine warriors only to see them underperform in the big league. SEE all of Bama's first round picks for good examples.
Jarvis will have more production than 90% of the combine warriors out there today.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:49 pm to TTsTowel
Ronnie was pretty productive. He has been discussed down here a LOT considering saban took him as the #2 overall pick. Consensus opinion is the Fins did get the production from him one would expect from a top 10 draft pick on average.
He was a workhorse for the Fins for several years behind a poor offensive line that had no passing attack whatsoever. I think Ronnie may have led the league in all purpose yardage one year. Also, the Fins didn't give him the ball the last game of his last season with them so that he would not break 1,000 all purpose yards and get a bonus. It was a shitty move. Overall, the Fins ran Ronnie into the ground in a short period, but did get high first round value from him overall.
BTW, I am not saying Mason is clearly superior to Hill. It is just my opinion he is the better back but a lot will depend on where each one goes and how they are utilized.
He was a workhorse for the Fins for several years behind a poor offensive line that had no passing attack whatsoever. I think Ronnie may have led the league in all purpose yardage one year. Also, the Fins didn't give him the ball the last game of his last season with them so that he would not break 1,000 all purpose yards and get a bonus. It was a shitty move. Overall, the Fins ran Ronnie into the ground in a short period, but did get high first round value from him overall.
BTW, I am not saying Mason is clearly superior to Hill. It is just my opinion he is the better back but a lot will depend on where each one goes and how they are utilized.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:50 pm to TTsTowel
I don't understand the hype of 40 times.
Every time they interviewed a coach, GM, former coach, player, etc. they asked what they were watching for...they all said the first 10 yrd split.
Everyone agreed that it was fun to watch the 40 but that 10 yd split was of more importance.
Not only that, I don't understand why people go crazy over one day of testing.
Football takes a season to play. It's not like track where you can set a world record and set yourself up for life financially with one single sub-10 second 100 yard race.
All this testing really does (except for medical testing) is reaffirm your film work or make you go back and double check what you saw on film.
Every time they interviewed a coach, GM, former coach, player, etc. they asked what they were watching for...they all said the first 10 yrd split.
Everyone agreed that it was fun to watch the 40 but that 10 yd split was of more importance.
Not only that, I don't understand why people go crazy over one day of testing.
Football takes a season to play. It's not like track where you can set a world record and set yourself up for life financially with one single sub-10 second 100 yard race.
All this testing really does (except for medical testing) is reaffirm your film work or make you go back and double check what you saw on film.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:51 pm to TTsTowel
233 lbs > 207 pounds.
I think most people would give up .16 of their 40 for 24 more pounds. There aren't too many people Hill's size running much faster.
I think most people would give up .16 of their 40 for 24 more pounds. There aren't too many people Hill's size running much faster.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:54 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:Yea, and it's so easy to find one through undrafted free agency or late in the draft.
RBs are impossible to project these days.
There also isn't a for-sure, 1st round talent running back in this class.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:56 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
BTW, in 6 years with the Fins, Ronnie had 6,200 all purpose yards and scored 38 TDs rushing and receiving.
And that was behind a bad oline with no QB where Ronnie was running the wildcat often. Hell, he even threw a couple of TD passes out of the wildcat.
He was a solid draft pick, even at #2 at the end of the day for the Fins.
And that was behind a bad oline with no QB where Ronnie was running the wildcat often. Hell, he even threw a couple of TD passes out of the wildcat.
He was a solid draft pick, even at #2 at the end of the day for the Fins.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:58 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:And that's with injuries factored in as well. He was easily one of the more talented running backs in the NFL when healthy, he just had some bad luck with injuries and played for a terrible team with hardly any other talent around him.
BTW, in 6 years with the Fins, Ronnie had 6,200 all purpose yards and scored 38 TDs
I drafted him on my fantasy team a couple of time, and he always beasted when healthy.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 5:58 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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RBs are impossible to project these days.
true. it amazes me to see so many rbs doing good in the NFL that no one had a clue about in college. wonder why that seems to be the case for rb's but not as much for other positions
Posted on 2/23/14 at 6:10 pm to NorthEndZone
That 4.48 will help Norwood's stock. He has good size and great hands. I think speed was the question with him. Hope he can make it as a possession-type receiver for some team.
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