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re: SEC needs to step up and hire some real basketball coaches
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:36 am to Glory, Glory
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:36 am to Glory, Glory
I said Fox is a good coach.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:16 am to Gcockboi
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Martin
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Fox
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Anderson
Really?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:32 am to wm72
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Is it that mid major programs in addition to other major conference schools are attracting more talent from the area with their commitment to basketball?
Mid-majors do a little damage, but the biggest impact imo comes when mid-level programs in other major conferences are able to cherry pick from the SEC footprint.
The kids who go to UNC, Duke, UK, etc. will always go to those places. When a program like UVA, NC State, B1G schools, etc. can recruit the area as well or more successfully than SEC schools, that's a problem.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:39 am to allin2010
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We need a rule change....use baseball model, if you go to college you stay 3 years.
And these teams weren't that good pre-rule change. A rule change won't be some magic fix for the conference.
As far as hiring coaches, schools not named Kentucky or Florida aren't going to get an elite coach in their prime. They're pretty well either going to have to pick up a coach with some baggage (Pearl), a top coach on the downside of his career, or an up and comer. Get the right one of those guys, who can recruit, and you'll be in good shape.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:36 pm to Gcockboi
Good basketball coaches come to the sec and cant do their job. These athletes dont know how to play the game the right way. These coaches have to tone down their teaching. They start out with players with nothing but bad habits and lack of basketball iq. The main problem is in the high school shite coaches.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:43 pm to Gcockboi
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Uptempo offenses negate that.
So slower athletes playing faster negates better athletes?
BTW, those basketball players from up north are pretty damned good athletes. In fact, one of them from Ohio is not only the one of the best basketball players in the world but is also one of the best athletes in the world.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 12:44 pm to kywildcatfanone
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the SEC is always near the top in both major sports.
No, it isn't. Kentucky and Florida are top basketball programs. The rest of the SEC, no.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:46 pm to Glory, Glory
He was actually complimenting UGA for the Fox hire, you idiot.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:53 pm to Tds & Beer
You may be on to something there. Aren't the vast majority of southern HS basketball coaches also and primarily asst. football coaches ? Perhaps a tad too much of the "tunnel/coaching" technique, at play ?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:35 pm to Gcockboi
HS basketball in the North is much, much better than high school basketball in the South.
Not as big a gulf as exists the other way in football. But Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Rochester, NYC... all the rust belt cities with high numbers of African Americans have amazing basketball.
Ohio's cities and Pittsburgh are probably the only ones which focus on football the way the south does.
It's not a matter of keeping SEC athletes in the SEC, either. The B10's geographical footprint just produces more blue chippers. Too bad they don't go to B10 schools as often as they go to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, etc.
Calipari took Memphis to a final with Derrick Rose and Chris Douglas Roberts. Won it all at Kentucky with Anthony Davis and MKG.
Not as big a gulf as exists the other way in football. But Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Buffalo, Rochester, NYC... all the rust belt cities with high numbers of African Americans have amazing basketball.
Ohio's cities and Pittsburgh are probably the only ones which focus on football the way the south does.
It's not a matter of keeping SEC athletes in the SEC, either. The B10's geographical footprint just produces more blue chippers. Too bad they don't go to B10 schools as often as they go to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, etc.
Calipari took Memphis to a final with Derrick Rose and Chris Douglas Roberts. Won it all at Kentucky with Anthony Davis and MKG.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:37 pm to todospm
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HS basketball in the North is much, much better than high school basketball in the South.
This is true. I spent a year in high school on the west coast and the atmosphere, importance and general crowd of basketball games were as intense as football games.
I come to AU and the crowd acts as if they have never seen a basketball much less a game. Nobody cares about BBall or understands how to be a bball crowd.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:45 pm to GenesChin
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This is true. I spent a year in high school on the west coast and the atmosphere, importance and general crowd of basketball games were as intense as football games.
I come to AU and the crowd acts as if they have never seen a basketball much less a game. Nobody cares about BBall or understands how to be a bball crowd.
Yep. In Chicago and Detroit, it's like the knob has been cranked fully in the other direction. Football is the off-season diversion.
I think it has to do with a couple of things:
1) cold weather and densely populated areas
2) the historic dominance of the Eastern conference and northern city teams in the NBA. Until the rise of the Suns, Spurs and Rockets, only the Lakers could hang with the Celtics, Bulls, 76ers, Pistons, Knicks, etc. (And look how popular basketball is in Los Angeles). Southern teams like Orlando and Miami didn't emerge until later, at which point basketball was firmly cemented as the most popular sport up North. For example, 'Jordan and the Bulls versus the Bad Boys in Detroit' helps explains why Chicago and Detroit are such bball crazy cities, I think.
I remember talking to a coach from a MVC football team, who was frustrated about recruiting the Chicago / Milwaukee area. All his prospects kept deciding to leave behind football to play Horizon League basketball, even though they didn't have the height to ever play professional b-ball.
ETA: That's not to say the South doesn't have great b-ball cities. Memphis in particular, I've heard, but not discounting Houston, New Orleans, Florida's cities, ATL, etc.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:34 am to Gcockboi
Frank Martin will get himself fired.
LSU is in good shape recruiting wise with Johnny Jones - the key will be a good x/o coach on sideline with him.
LSU is in good shape recruiting wise with Johnny Jones - the key will be a good x/o coach on sideline with him.
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