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Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:59 pm to BigBro
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All 16 schools have at least one NC in the Big 3 sports. Florida & LSU* are the only two schools to have at least one NC in each sport
UF is the ONLY school to win a NC in the Big 3 in the past, almost 60 years.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:14 pm to VolunGator
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UF is the ONLY school to win a NC in the Big 3 in the past, almost 60 years.
Understood. That is why they got an * with a notation. I don’t think it should count.. but apparently LSU claims it. A&M should only have 1 NC in football as well.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:17 pm to BigBro
quote:didn't you guys lose the bowl game one of these years? Hilarious
4 Texas 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:20 pm to Chicken
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didn't you guys lose the bowl game one of these years? Hilarious
1970, but that was the bowl system back then.. it was more of a fun extra game that didn’t really count.. Alabama 1964 is like this as well, as are several others.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:20 pm to VolunGator
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UF is the ONLY school to win a NC in the Big 3 in the past, almost 60 years.
I’m pretty sure Ohio State also did this.
ETA: Both Michigan and Ohio State did it as well as Florida.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:25 pm to Godawgs4
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In 1950, Tennessee went 11-1, which was the same record that Kentucky had that year, though Tennessee did beat Kentucky. They did, however, lose to a Mississippi State team with a losing record. Oklahoma also had 1 loss and was awarded BOTH the AP and UPI titles, but Tennessee claims this one anyway.
And UK handed Oklahoma their only loss on the Sugar Bowl. That was a Bear coached UK national championship team. We claim it as the Sagarin ratings also do.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:25 pm to BigBro
Yeah not a legitimate title claim.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 11:14 pm to Chicken
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Yeah not a legitimate title claim.
Let the NCAA know and I’ll stop claiming it when they remove it from the official list.. Let me know.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 11:57 pm to BigBro
In 1950, the NC was decided before the bowl games were played...bowl games were just for fun.
It was probably that way throughout the 1950s.
But this brings up another question. OU only claims NC from AP. Since we are joining the SEC, should we claim the others?
Various organizations have named National Champions in college football since 1869.Utilizing the selectors as recognized by the NCAA, Oklahoma has been recognized for 17 different seasons: 2003, 2000, 1986, 1985, 1980, 1978, 1975, 1974, 1973, 1967, 1956, 1955, 1953, 1950, 1949 and 1915.
It was probably that way throughout the 1950s.
But this brings up another question. OU only claims NC from AP. Since we are joining the SEC, should we claim the others?
Various organizations have named National Champions in college football since 1869.Utilizing the selectors as recognized by the NCAA, Oklahoma has been recognized for 17 different seasons: 2003, 2000, 1986, 1985, 1980, 1978, 1975, 1974, 1973, 1967, 1956, 1955, 1953, 1950, 1949 and 1915.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:47 am to Chicken
How is it not a legit title claim?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:34 am to starkvingrad
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You have to give a lot of credit to Arkansas for having strong athletics. It's a state with just 3 million people and their flagship university consistently competes with the rich schools in big states.
Do what?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:40 am to BigBro
It's always not a good idea to talk shite to the site owner. PSA.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:46 am to Houag80
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It's always not a good idea to talk shite to the site owner. PSA.
I wasn’t talking shite.. and I chose my words carefully for this very reason. I just acknowledged what he said..
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:34 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Great, so now Tennessee is claiming national championships when they didn't even win the conference?
Alabama claims the 1941 championship despite having two losses and finishing third in the SEC.
They really ought to revisit that one. They've won plenty of legitimate ones recently. The reputational harm of claiming the 1941 far outweighs the benefit of adding another number to the championship tally.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:43 am to BigBro
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#4 Tennessee beat #3 Texas in the Cotton Bowl
#1 Oklahoma lost to #7 Kentucky in the Sugar Bowl
#2 Army lost to Navy after the last poll was released
In Oklahoma's defense, we went undefeated in 1949 (35-0 win over LSU in bowl) and 1954 (ineligible for bowl due to conference rules on consecutive bowls). So if people want us to trade 1950 for 1949 and 1954 then we'll take it.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:53 am to Oklahomey
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Just because a selector names a program a national champion doesn’t mean they get a national championship for that year.
Pre-AP titles are not recognized by a lot of people, especially media. Schools will claim what they want to. But it is known that pre-AP claims usually centered around playing in the Rose Bowl. Although there was no official selector before 1936, the Helms Athletic Foundation and National Championship Foundation are widely considered the most recognized.
Since 1936 and 1950, the Associated Press and UPI/Coaches/BCS titles are the most recognized selectors. The National Football Foundatuon (MacArthur Bowl) and Football Writers Association of America (Grantland Rice Trophy) are second tier honors but programs do recognize them as adding them to their totals. BUT they are not as legitimate as the AP and UPI/Coaches/BCS.
There are programs who claim titles who don’t officially have them but should have them. That’s another subject on its own.
Programs to claim titles in the AP era that were not awarded by the AP or UPI:
1938 Tennessee
1939 USC (claimed in 2004 offseason)
1941 Alabama (Bama fans here don’t like it)
1942 Georgia
1947 Michigan
1950 Tennessee (they should have it)
1952 Georgia Tech
1958 Iowa
1959 Ole Miss
1960 Ole Miss (deserved it)
1961 Ohio State
1962 Ole Miss
1964 Arkansas
1966 Michigan State
1970 Ohio State
This is how I know you are not a true Oklahoma fan. This BS about the pre-AP/UPI and Rose Bowl is pure Alabama talking points.
From your post history I am 99% sure you are an Alabama fan. You may live in OKC.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:10 am to BajaOklahoma
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In 1950, the NC was decided before the bowl games were played...bowl games were just for fun.
It was probably that way throughout the 1950s.
But this brings up another question. OU only claims NC from AP. Since we are joining the SEC, should we claim the others?
Various organizations have named National Champions in college football since 1869.Utilizing the selectors as recognized by the NCAA, Oklahoma has been recognized for 17 different seasons: 2003, 2000, 1986, 1985, 1980, 1978, 1975, 1974, 1973, 1967, 1956, 1955, 1953, 1950, 1949 and 1915.
I can't believe I am going to say this but I am going to defend Alabama and some others here on this particular post.
Most of Alabama's questionable titles were pre-AP and UPI. I do not believe they claim any of these non-wire service titles after the point that AP and UPI started their polls.
Claiming non-wire service titles after the wire services started awarding them is suspect, but claiming titles after the BCS era started is even more suspect.*
* - I would issue an exception for USC in 2003 and Auburn in 2004. I don't know who would have won in a USC / LSU matchup in 2003 but I am confident that USC would have easily beaten Auburn in 2004.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:57 am to ChapelHillSooner
It’s not an Alabama thing. Do your college football research. I’m not crediting Alabama with pre-AP titles. They don’t need my input anyways. There are publications out there that credit the Rose Bowl as being a showcase at times for the best teams in the nation. That’s why some programs will claim pre-AP titles. I’m not claiming it for them. It’s kind of like the current HBCU Celebration Bowl in Atlanta. The MEAC vs. the SWAC for the de-facto national championship.
Also, I’m a die-hard OU fan. Who’s to say you’re really an OU fan? Have you been to any games? Did you graduate or attend the university? Or is it because UNC is terrible at football that you need to latch onto someone that is consistently good?
Also, I’m a die-hard OU fan. Who’s to say you’re really an OU fan? Have you been to any games? Did you graduate or attend the university? Or is it because UNC is terrible at football that you need to latch onto someone that is consistently good?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:06 am to Oklahomey
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Also, I’m a die-hard OU fan.
It is 10:06 am and OU still sucks!
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Or is it because UNC is terrible at football
Unless Mack is coaching.. and then they are kinda good!
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