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Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:31 pm to cardboardboxer
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Basically USC and Mizzou owe A&M their SEC lives. If we take that 1990 offer neither gets in and the SEC is a 12 team league.
Which is cool, I like both fanbases.
Who would've been put in the East though?
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:32 pm to theGarnetWay
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eta: Does a Mizzou fan really think Mizzou was the SEC's 1st choice in it's 2nd expansion?
Of course not. We were their second.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:46 pm to KCM0Tiger
Slive is old school in that even if Mizzou was 8th down the list he was going to say they were second. Actually the original 2 in 2009 were TAMU and OU but the Sooners wanted to bring along OK State and Slive & Co was not going for that. Slive went to Norman long before Columbia.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:47 pm to Korin
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Who would've been put in the East though?
Auburn. In a perfect world, we would still like to play Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee every year. Putting AU in the West is what lead to the blossoming of the AU/LSU rivalry. Before 1992 we didn't play LSU regularly. Auburn's biggest rivals were Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee, in that order.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:53 pm to Korin
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''I can understand their being angry about not being the first choice,'' Sliger said. ''But we have no resentment toward them. There have been times when I felt angry when I didn't get my way.''
Infamous last words from an arrogant administration that now regrets their decision.
However, the words that forever locked the SEC door to FSU: "The SEC can kiss our ACC."
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:00 pm to Korin
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And on 9/16/90, Florida State officially chickened out.
Here is the kill shot by the dumb folks at Free Shoes U
Corrigan confirmed Saturday that Florida State will be required to pay an ''initiation fee'' to join the league. The fee amounts to approximately $500,000 - one-eighth of the 1989 assets of the ACC after distribution of television, tournament and bowl revenue.
500,000 to join ACC
50 bucks to join the SEC
ACC took their money and laughed while paying them MUCH less than they would have made all these years in the SEC. Once the SECN is up the member schools should be making about 40 million per school while the ACC will max out around 20 million per year. Joining the ACC will cost Free Shoes 20 million per year going forward.
Those Free Shoes U folks sure are savvy businessmen!
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:08 pm to Cheese Grits
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It would be great to be in the SEC with our radius of schools and the way our fans travel and their fans travel
-FSU A.D. SPETMAN 2013
LINK
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:09 pm to kingbob
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Why did they take Arky? Any way we can still rescind that invitation? They're pretty much useless.
Still butthurt about us peeing in your pumpkin pie a little too often?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:11 pm to Mirthomatic
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If you're saying that had A&M joined the SEC in 1990, that UTx would be joining now, I disagree. The second expansion was for TV--same as the first, I guess--and it wasn't going to be in a state already w/in the SEC footprint. If A&M had joined in 1990, the SEC might have just decided to stay at 12.
Actually, Arkansas and Texas were set to join, Arkansas was going regardless and Texas saw the SWC was going to collapse being a Texas only league so they wanted to go.
Then "momma" said you have to take your little brothers or you can't go, there wasn't room for aTm, Baylor, and TTU, so Florida St. was called.
Per - Frank Broyles
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:20 pm to theGarnetWay
Why did South Carolina leave the ACC?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:31 pm to msudawg1200
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Why did South Carolina leave the ACC?
Essentially the same reason A&M wanted out of the Big 12 except Tobacco Road instead of Texas.
From wiki (sourced to a book about our history)
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The success South Carolina achieved on the court brought resentment and anger from fellow ACC schools, especially those on "Tobacco Road," as the conference members of the state of North Carolina were known. The hostility of the road crowds, the unfriendly behavior of coaches and athletic directors in the conference, and the discrepancies in eligibility standards led McGuire to support South Carolina becoming an Independent before the 1971-72 season.
FWIW we won the ACC in football in 1969 and basketball in 1970, left the conference in '71.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:32 pm to weagle99
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South Carolina was the last school standing. Kramer met with officials in Columbia on September 20, and on September 25, the Gamecocks received their official invitation
The Good Lord always looks out for the Gamecocks. He likes us and figured we had suffered enough.
We have good Karma.
We've now become one of the most loved and respected programs in the conference, if not the country. We persevere, we endeavor, we keep our noses to the grindstone and we never look up. Our women are beautiful, our men are brave and handsome studs like myself for the most part. We never whined or cried like the pusstard mizzzzzz ... errrrr, wait, my mind wandered for a moment there.
(I was just remembered some of the early days and I wanted to take a moment here to type frick Paul Finebaum and frick that bastard girlfriend of his Jimmy Hyams.)
Anyways, I remember several things in my life.
The day I was born. The day I got my first blowjob and the day I knocked down my first piece of tail (same gal, different days), the day JFK was shot, the day I got back to America and got out of the Service. The day RFK was shot. The day I married my first wife, the birth of my first child ... etc., etc., etc., and I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing the day I heard we were headed into the SEC.
It was a great day for all SCAR fans. Thank you SEC.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:50 pm to DaleDenton
Texas was never set to join the SEC. In the 90s, they were interested in the Pac10 only. Both Texas and A&M wanted to be in the same conference but both were looking at different conferences (PAC10 and SEC respectively).
Some years later, the Big8 came in and offered membership to both schools. When they accepted, Bob Bullock demanded both his alma maters to be taken care of. He forced Texas and A&M to take Baylor and Tech or he would open up the PUF (which exclusively funds both flagship systems) to all the state schools.
Some years later, the Big8 came in and offered membership to both schools. When they accepted, Bob Bullock demanded both his alma maters to be taken care of. He forced Texas and A&M to take Baylor and Tech or he would open up the PUF (which exclusively funds both flagship systems) to all the state schools.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:54 pm to msudawg1200
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Why did South Carolina leave the ACC?
The ACC as far back as I can remember was the All Carolina Conference and really only applied to members in North Carolina and specifically the Tar Heels. They kept the other 3 under their thumb to maintain voting power. Bad enough the Tar heels had to have the taterheads but Cocks were the red headed stepchild to the taterheads in the Tar Heels view.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:07 pm to Mizzou to my Lou
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South Carolina was the last school standing
quote:What are you laughing about?
Mizzou to my Lou
Everyone worth their salt in football knowledge knows we were down on the list, behind FSU, Miami, A&M, Arkansas, and Texas.
But Mizzou wasn't even on the list.
So basically you're laughing at the fact Mizzou was even behind lowly South Carolina.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:16 pm to msudawg1200
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Why did South Carolina leave the ACC?
Probably because of all the Tobacco Road bs.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:16 pm to greenbastard
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Texas was never set to join the SEC. In the 90s, they were interested in the Pac10 only.
Texas wanted the PAC but wanted to bring along TAMU to have an extra vote in their back pocket. TAMU wanted the SEC because they had been in the old SIAA and liked the company. TAMU learned their lesson and kept the texas thinking in the back pocket and waited. in 2010 they got another chance because Texas bringing a posse allowed TAMU to slip out to the east.
Delay by Texas and the PAC cost the B12 but it allowed TAMU to go the second time around.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:18 pm to Korin
My friend's grandma still won't root for any ACC team because of the contempt SC and the ACC had for one another. Not just the NC teams or Clemson, I mean any.
Now it happened so long ago that most SC fans (and I imagine ACC fans as well) don't really know or care about it.
eta: Except for the SC fans that live in NC and have to put up with UNC fans on a regular basis, they can't stand them.
Now it happened so long ago that most SC fans (and I imagine ACC fans as well) don't really know or care about it.
eta: Except for the SC fans that live in NC and have to put up with UNC fans on a regular basis, they can't stand them.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:02 pm to theGarnetWay
The first expansion was solely about the title game and the money generated from it, Kramer found the rule and wanted to exploit it for monetary purposes. If it had been about TV rights they wouldn't have targeted FSU…Or Texas and Texas A&M.
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