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re: SEC Enrollment Numbers

Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Emergent C Steve
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:41 am to
It is ASU, Florida International and then Ohio State.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:41 am to
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A&M also wants to grow the Engineering program to be 25,000 students by 2025.
A&M is in a different league compared to the rest of the SEC in terms of how many students they can take and still remain a top notch quality university. UF is the only school in the same stratosphere in this regards
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:41 am to
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A&M, LSU, and AU were on the top of the list for SEC schools in terms of earning potential from what I remembe


quick search bc I was curious, here are the mid-career salaries

Vanderbilt: $97,700
A&M: $94,300
Auburn: $87,900
Florida: $84,600
Arkansas: $83,600
LSU: $83,200
Tennessee: $82,300
Missouri: $80,400
UGA: $79,400
Alabama: $76,500
Miss State: $75,700
South Carolina: $73,500
Kentucky: $72,600
Ole Miss: $66,800
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:42 am to
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1. Texas A&M 62,185


WAY too high.

When I was in school (Fall 1996 - Spring 2000), the enrollment numbers were just over 44,100 and that was HUGE.

I can't imagine an increase of almost 20,000 students being a good thing.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:42 am to
Its a matter of pulling it off the right away. Acceptance standards cannot be lowered. Failout classes should not get easier. Facilities and resources should be scaled accordingly.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:43 am to
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quick search bc I was curious, here are the mid-career salaries





This was updated more recently than your numbers, but there isnt really a major change
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 11:44 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:43 am to
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It is ASU, Florida International and then Ohio State.



Gotta be careful when looking at ASU. They actually have 4 regional campuses that they count in their numbers. Tempe is still pretty huge, but not the biggest.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10156 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:43 am to
A $1,000 check from St Louis cashes the exact same as a $1,000 check from Mobile.

Your OOS numbers are ridiculous for a flagship university. What happens when the bubble bursts and UA stops giving all this money away to OOS students? It's not going to be pretty

This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:43 am to
Read the fricking thread old man. That is the total enrollment counting the sea and sand Aggies, not just the CSTX Ags.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:44 am to
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Same at UA ~ I'd venture to guess that the construction/expansion projects in the last 10 years at UA is in up into the billion$. Incoming freshmen are required to live on campus, resulting in massive on-campus housing growth. UA is in the midst of a construction boom that doesn't appear to be slowing down.



Some pretty smart people see big changes coming in higher education itself and also how it is paid for. Some of these rapidly expanding universities could end up on the wrong side of history very soon.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:44 am to
while the numbers differ a bit, seems about right
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:44 am to
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Same at UA
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It's just what flagship universities with the state's resources behind us can do. Auburn et al. wouldn't understand.


I don't know about that ~ AU eclipsed UA in total enrollment and for AU it was a source of pride for some time.

Then, UA finally got a damn strong President on campus and he with the help of the BOT had a vision that we are just now seeing come to fruition.

Like I said previously, UA's campus as a whole is unrecognizable to anyone that attended in the 80's/90's. My cousin now lives and works in SanFran and he came back home for the 1st time since '98 - went to the MSU game in BDS with me last year and was floored by the stadium and campus as a whole.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:45 am to
That's what poor Universities have to tell themselves.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:45 am to
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Literally no one likes that plan. Very dubious at being able to pull it off.


I mean I'm not opposed to growth of that scale if we have a plan on how to utilize it, but so far I see nothing more than a cash grab and an excuse to build shiny new top of the line buildings, and having enough cash for research and professors. Don't get me wrong I love the cosmetic transformation of the engineering part of campus, but the petroleum building was ugly, I just spent time in the computer labs. At a certain point, I want to see a plan on how to transform all these kids in to better engineers. Incentivizing people in to getting Masters, more specialized degree programs, etc etc etc. I need to see things like that, instead of just more engineering drop outs.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:45 am to
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Your OOS numbers are ridiculous for an flagship university
This too. Not flaming here, but how do the Bama alums feel about this? I personally love that our flagship has mainly in state students.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29176 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:46 am to
LSU's enrollment has been steady for as long as I can remember, between 28-31k. I heard in the 90s we had 35k+ students. LSU is bringing in higher quality students and its graduation rate has gone from like 34% in the 90s to 70%. With the budget cuts looming I expect LSU to put emphasis on out of state to bring in more money and also improve its rank, which is such a dumb criteria for ranking universities anyways
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:46 am to
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AU eclipsed UA in total enrollment



Right- without the infrastructure to procure a quality education for those students, unlike flagship universities like A&M or UA who have the states' wealth behind them to grow with the students.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:46 am to
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Like I said previously, UA's campus as a whole is unrecognizable to anyone that attended in the 80's/90's. My cousin now lives and works in SanFran and he came back home for the 1st time since '98 - went to the MSU game in BDS with me last year and was floored by the stadium and campus as a whole.



A lot, if not most, of campuses around the country are like this. A lot of brand new shiny buildings have popped up across college campuses. Part of the growing business of a college degree.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:47 am to
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I expect LSU to put emphasis on out of state
I personally hate this
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:48 am to
Endowment PER student is the best comparison. April 2013 Numbers - Gamecocks

Endowment per student:
1. Vanderbilt – $267,450
2. Texas A&M system – $60,881
3. Kentucky – $32,110
4. Arkansas – $31,404
5. Mississippi system – $27,253
6. Florida – $25,310
7. UGA system – $21,562
8. Auburn – $18,371
9. Mississippi State – $16,885
10.Tennessee system – $16,788
11. Alabama system – $16,653
12. Missouri system – $15,614
13. LSU system – $15,149
14. USC system – $11,109
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