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re: SEC Country question regarding high school football
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:42 am to RollTide MJ
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:42 am to RollTide MJ
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A unanimous vote has shaken things up a bit and starting fall 2014 there will now be 1A-7A so they have voted to add a new class.
I saw that yesterday. Pretty crazy. My HS just went to 7A.
Does it take effect for the 2014-2015 year?
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:57 am to relapse98
Texas has way too many teams in the playoffs. You have to win 6 games to win a championship, that is a ridiculous amount of games compared to the regular season. They also need to have another division of limit the size of high schools. This year a 5A school with 6,000 kids is in the same division as a school with 2,000 kids. The Plano/Allen schools are massive.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:42 am to RollTide MJ
I read that the student population in schools in 6A was a huge range. Like 675-2000 students qualified you for 6A. Those schools with 2000 students were getting too powerful, so they just cut into that big discrepancy and created 7A.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:43 am to relapse98
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Poor Evangel and John Curtis.
The big time private schools will continue to compete. But those with suffering athletics (like St. Louis High in Lake Charles) will have a tougher row to hoe.
It has little to no effect on 3A public schools.
2A and below are the ones who benefit the most. It was immediately apparent last year.
Kinder wins it's first state title in 40 years and every 1A team in the state got into the playoffs.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 11:03 am to Guava Jelly
This isn't SEC country but Pennsylvania does A-AAAA.
Due to the fact that PA is divided up into townships, and that most townships and boroughs have their own school system, for the most part PA schools are a lot smaller student wise. Most of the areas that have county schools are really small population wise.
Due to the fact that PA is divided up into townships, and that most townships and boroughs have their own school system, for the most part PA schools are a lot smaller student wise. Most of the areas that have county schools are really small population wise.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 11:06 am to WDE24
quote:That's true.
quote:There are 8 classifications in Florida, not counting private schools. Private schools that compete in the FHSAA are included in the 8 classifications unless something has changed recently.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 11:32 am to RollTide MJ
Not SEC country, but here in Minnesota, we just did the same thing last year. We had one class of nine man football and classes 1A-5A. Each class has eight sections of roughly 8 teams each. Last year a "super size" class was created for the largest 32 teams in the state with four sections of eight teams. Counting nine man, we now have seven classes. The states of Minnesota and Alabama are close in population.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:01 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Louisiana. 1-5A
LA also has Div II and Div III and split the otheres into Select and Non-Select.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:05 pm to Golfer
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Does it take effect for the 2014-2015 year?
Yeah, starting in the Fall.
My HS went up to 7A also.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:33 pm to RollTide MJ
Not relavent because our fball is shite (minus NYC) where I'm from sans James Starks, Gronk, Jehuu Caulcrick and we'll see how Chad Kelly pans out at Clemson. We don't even do the #A shite, it's D/C/B/A/AA with private (pretty much catholic) schools and public split. That sucked because we always wanted to play the private schools, a couple of which were top-25 in the country (St. Francis).
Posted on 1/23/14 at 1:26 pm to RollTide MJ
In missouri classes are divided 8-man then 1A - 6A with 6A being the highest classification with student populations greater than 1775 I believe. Also I notice most states have seperate divisions for private and public. In missouri both private and public schools compete in the same classifications.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:00 pm to relapse98
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And FWIW, I am on the fence about 4 teams from each district making playoffs.
I'm not on the fence at all, but I'm probably just an old curmudgeon. Why, back in my day, when men were men and women were too, 1 team from each 8-team district made the playoffs. Nobody whined about second chances because every team already had 7 chances.
In MS 4 of the 8 teams in a district make the playoffs. Every fall I pick up the Saturday morning paper late in the year and read about what a 2-4 team needs to happen next week to make the playoffs. That's insane.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:01 pm to RollTide MJ
This is how Texas is set up. We will be going to 6A next year but I don't know what the enrollment number will be. This year each classification had two state champs because they are divided each into two divisions. There are over 1,000 public high schools in Texas and that doesn't include the private high schools.
•5A – 2,090 and larger
•4A – 1,005 to 2,089
•3A – 450 to 1,004
•2A – 200 to 449
•1A – 199 and smaller
•Six-Man – 99.9 and smaller (for football, basketball and spring meets)
Division I and Division II Break Numbers
for 2A, 1A 11-Man and 1A 6-Man Football:
2A 293.5
1A 11-Man 150.5
1A 6-Man 50.5
Classes 1A and 2A are divided in to Division I and Division II for the regular season AND playoffs, while classes 3A, 4A and 5A are combined together during the regular season, then divided in to Division I and Division II for the playoffs.
•5A – 2,090 and larger
•4A – 1,005 to 2,089
•3A – 450 to 1,004
•2A – 200 to 449
•1A – 199 and smaller
•Six-Man – 99.9 and smaller (for football, basketball and spring meets)
Division I and Division II Break Numbers
for 2A, 1A 11-Man and 1A 6-Man Football:
2A 293.5
1A 11-Man 150.5
1A 6-Man 50.5
Classes 1A and 2A are divided in to Division I and Division II for the regular season AND playoffs, while classes 3A, 4A and 5A are combined together during the regular season, then divided in to Division I and Division II for the playoffs.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:35 am to TheDude321
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I disagree. I'm tired of this everyone-deserves-a-trophy attitude that is forming in this country. Kids today are in for a harsh reality when they find out that it isn't really like this in the real world.
It's high school football. ONE additional school out of nearly 400 will be getting a trophy.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:57 am to BamaDude06
In Arkansas there's a split between 6a and 7a because of the size disparity.
The champion in 7A has 3 times the enrollment of the champion in 6A.
The champion in 7A has 3 times the enrollment of the champion in 6A.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:51 am to Killean
Currently I believe we have 1A through 7A. Back in the mid 90's the classification for small schools got completely screwed up in Arkansas. In the span of two years we jumped from 1A to 3A despite having the same amount of players. I was in high school so I really did not know the reasoning behind the jump to a higher class, all I knew was it sucked.
When playing 1A we made the playoffs every year because player numbers were evenly matched. We did not have enough guys to rotate many people so the majority of guys had to play both O and D for the whole game.
Jumping to 3A we played teams that had seperate squads for defense and offense and some even had two deep for both. Only time we stood a chance was playing other schools our size with a similar number of players. Being totally gassed and getting ran over by fresh guys that hadn't even broken a sweat was a nightmare.
When playing 1A we made the playoffs every year because player numbers were evenly matched. We did not have enough guys to rotate many people so the majority of guys had to play both O and D for the whole game.
Jumping to 3A we played teams that had seperate squads for defense and offense and some even had two deep for both. Only time we stood a chance was playing other schools our size with a similar number of players. Being totally gassed and getting ran over by fresh guys that hadn't even broken a sweat was a nightmare.
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