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re: SEC bubble watch, 3-4
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:55 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:55 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Is it the same for a three way tiebreaker? So if A&M, LSU and OM finish 12-6 I believe we would win. We would be 2-1, LSU 2-2 and OM 1-2.
This would be three way tie for third
correct. in that scenario
#3 a&m
#4 lsu
#5 ole miss
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:56 am to Stonehog
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Because they use head to head first.
yes head to head amongst all the tied teams. not just against arkansas, which is what you said.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:56 am to Stonehog
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All they need to do is beat Vandy on Saturday and they're safely in.
Bet the fricking house on the Dores this weekend.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:01 am to bbap
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Because they use head to head first.
yes head to head amongst all the tied teams. not just against arkansas, which is what you said.
No, I said first they use head to head, then record against top seeds. If the tiebreaker can be settled with head to head then there's no need to go to the next step.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:03 am to Stonehog
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then record against top seeds.
which you claimed to be arkansas. it's not. im sorry but you arent keeping up.
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Three-Team Tie (or more)
When three or more teams are tied, the following procedure will be used in the following order until the tie is broken. If two teams re- main tied after a tiebreaker provision, the two-team tiebreaker formula will be used.
1. Best winning percentage of games played among the tied teams (Example: Team A is 3-1, Team B is 2-2 and Team C is 1-3 - Team A would be seeded highest, Team B second-highest and Team C lowest of the three).
2. Best winning percentage of the tied teams versus the No. 1 seed (and proceed- ing through the No. 14 seed, if necessary).
If two teams remain, coin flip by the Commissioner.
If three or more teams remain, draw by the Commissioner.
For the purpose of seeding, if an institution is precluded from participating in the tournament, such institution will automatically be seeded last. However, for the pur- pose of breaking ties, that team will remain where it finished in the regular-season standings BEFORE being seeded last.
Im not trying to be a dick. Just pointing out this is bad info.
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First they go head to head, then records against top seeds. Since no one has beat Kentucky, wins against Arkansas would be the deciding factor.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:06 am to bbap
I didn't realize you were including Arkansas in your 4 way tie. Thought it was just a hypothetical.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:07 am to Stonehog
Oh. Well i wrote this:
It is just a hypothetical but i mean we're talking about a 4 way tie for the 2 seed. How would arkansas not be included in that?
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What are the seeds when there is a 4 way tie for 2nd? I bet no one here has bothered to research that.
It is just a hypothetical but i mean we're talking about a 4 way tie for the 2 seed. How would arkansas not be included in that?
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:09 am to bbap
We would need to go 0-2 this week for there to be any tie at 2nd. If we win one game we'll have sole possession of 2nd place. So we should really be talking about the 3-way tie at 3rd.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:10 am to Stonehog
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e would need to go 0-2 this week for there to be any tie at 2nd.
clearly. i know what the standings are. that's why it's a hypothetical.
LSU has to go 5 for 5 to be the 2 seed.
Beat UT
Beat Arkansas
Ole miss beat Vandy
A&m beat Bama
Carolina beat Arkansas
3 of those are pretty likely. the other 2 not so much. but 5 for 5 very unlikely.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:15 am to Stonehog
I just got on the aTm in the NCAA wagon...now I'm back off.
The loss to UF has dropped their RPI to almost 50.
I think the Aggies need to win a couple in the SECt now
The loss to UF has dropped their RPI to almost 50.
I think the Aggies need to win a couple in the SECt now
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:23 am to Hawgeye
And their last game is against Bama. Not a very flashy win, but if they could take down a team like Georgia in the tournament then I think they're safe. Plus that season sweep of Lsu is starting to look a lot better.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:28 am to Stonehog
so, can we be the thorn in anyone's side since all we have left is sc and lsu? lsu is firm in the tourney right so nothing there and sc isn't gonna make it so we're just playing for a possible higher seeding i guess.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:36 am to bbap
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Ole miss beat Vandy
A&m beat Bama
I'm not sure that these need to happen for LSU to get the #2.
2 Seed Scenarios
4 way tie (with A&M, LSU, OM, and ARK all at 12-6)
2) LSU (3-2)
3) Ark (2-2 w/ win over A&M)
4) A&M (2-2 w/ loss to ARK)
5) OM (2-3)
3 Way Tie with (LSU, A&M, and ARK all at 12-6)
2) A&M (2-1)
3) ARK (1-1)
4) LSU (1-2)
3 Way Tie with (LSU, OM, and ARK)
2) LSU (3-0)
3) ARK (1-2)
4) OM (1-3)
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:41 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If we beat Bama and win one game in the SEC tourney I think we are in.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:45 am to Stonehog
UGA is in. Every bracket has them as a the 3rd SEC team in. OM, AM, LSU cannot lose Saturday.
UGA will beat AU this time , now that half thier starters won't be out for the rematch.
UGA will beat AU this time , now that half thier starters won't be out for the rematch.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:51 am to lsufishnhunt
Yeah if a&m loses then the ole miss result doesn't matter. If a&m wins then ole miss would need to win too.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:52 am to 3rddownonthe8
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OM, AM, LSU cannot lose Saturday.
Completely false. LSU is at Arkansas. A loss won't affect their bid.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:54 am to bbap
A loss to Arkansas probably won't derail LSU from the NCAAT. A win, on the other hand, probably puts them in about as safely as they can hope for. I expect to get their best shot on Saturday.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:08 am to bbap
I've done all the tiebreakers. Don't have them with me tho. But I know in a four way tie for second A&M finishes third of four, LSU finishes first of the four. All tiebreakers are best percentage record in games with other tied teams.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:12 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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f we beat Bama and win one game in the SEC tourney I think we are in.
The NCAA has a habit of fricking the SEC. Unless they plan on taking 6 SEC teams we should expect that 1 or 2 of LSU, aTm, or OM will not be happy after selection Sunday. Georgia's RPI secures their spot as the 3rd SEC lock. aTm had a chance to punch their ticket last night and LSU has the same opportunity tonight. If we should lose tonight's game, we may be right back in the SEC bubble pack.
I'd be more surprised if the NCAA takes 6 SEC teams than if they take 4. I think they take 5.
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