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Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:41 am
Prior to the season, experts said the SEC will be better this year. That is not the case. If anything it got worse. How does it get fixed? I do see teams getting better . We need to have more than one consistent team. I thought it would be florida but maybe not.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:45 am to
I think the Mike White experiment will fail. With that said, the SEC does seem to be getting better, but it will take time.

LSU and MSU were disappointing this year for sure.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:48 am to
Ole Miss will need to add some more but we could have a better all around team but we won't have anywhere near a Moody level player.

Where do you put State? I know they will be improved but what are you expecting? I don't really follow other schools in basketball at all so just wondering what you think.
Posted by Spinthemusic
Member since Feb 2016
381 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:02 am to
While I seen a slight improvement this year, I don't see it as much of an improvement to start seeing a drastic rise in recruits wanting to come to the SEC. I think the biggest hurdle to cross is being able to attract the 1 and dones to come to teams besides Kentucky.

Prime example is how the whole Simmons fiasco turned out at LSU this year. I think CBB players should have to stay at least 3 years before going to the draft. It would improve the product in college as well as the NBA.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:16 am to
quote:

While I seen a slight improvement this year, I don't see it as much of an improvement to start seeing a drastic rise in recruits wanting to come to the SEC. I think the biggest hurdle to cross is being able to attract the 1 and dones to come to teams besides Kentucky.

Prime example is how the whole Simmons fiasco turned out at LSU this year. I think CBB players should have to stay at least 3 years before going to the draft. It would improve the product in college as well as the NBA.


I agree that there has been some improvement, especially compared to the real low point of 2012 or so. Even if there were not many NCAA tournament teams, there were 8 or 9 teams "on the bubble" most of the season that picked up good OOC wins.

Compare that some recent seasons where that many teams had sub 200 RPIs and it is a lot better.

I'm not really sure the SEC getting more one and dones is the answer as much as just getting better "basketball players" as opposed to "raw" athletes.



I'm just a casual observer but feel like a lot of SEC teams need a few more fundamentally sound players coming in each year instead of so many 'athletes' that look as though they've actually never been coached a minute before arriving.





This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I think CBB players should have to stay at least 3 years before going to the draft. It would improve the product in college as well as the NBA.


Completely disagree. What's the point in keeping a player like Anthony Davis or Karl Anthony Towns in college for three years when they're clearly ready for the NBA?
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:47 am to
I like the idea of a player either gose pro straight out of high school or he has 2 years in college minimum.
Posted by RazorHawk
Inverness, FL
Member since Dec 2004
514 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:03 am to
I am not so sure that the Big 12, Big 10 and PAC 10 were not over-rated and the SEC was under-rated. Maybe just a factor of the parity currently in the college game.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25786 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:26 am to
Play better maybe?
Posted by Spinthemusic
Member since Feb 2016
381 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:27 am to
Simple, to improve the product for both the player, and the institutions.
Imagine if Simmons had 2 more years at LSU, & Coach Jones was able to recruit other players to compliment that team. There would be time to work on character,leadership skills, & team chemistry.

Instead they got held hostage for 7 or 8 months, and now don't even know his whereabouts.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4274 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Where do you put State?


Not sure. Experience goes way down. Quality of players goes way up, but it is a bit of a crap shoot with how well high school kids transition to the college game.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:44 am to
This year ? Their record is probably right or possibly better . Coming into the season, majority of the fan thought with Newman and Coach Howland , State was a tourney team. Actually, State wasn't even close. They was behind in talent . Newman didn't pan out as projected. He wasn't the best player on the team. I'm not sure if he was even the 3rd best player on the team. 2016-17, if State makes NCAA or Nit tourney it's a success. It's a lot depending on that. Does Newman or Q stay or do they declare? State is on the rise for sure.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:51 am to
What's funny with basketball is that one player can dominate a game. Where would LSU be without Simmons? Ultimately, it didn't matter but everybody thought they would battle Kentucky for the top spot. Where would Oklahoma be with Hield?
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 11:57 am to
State is on the way up that is for sure.

How dose the recruiting classes look for the SEC this year? I know Ole Miss' class is lacking around 55th.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:30 pm to
I think 7th Nationally and 2nd in conference. Of course, we are behind Kentucky.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:40 pm to
Found this
1. UK (1)
2.State (6)
3.Aub (23)
4.Ark (25)
5.A&M (33)
6.UT (44)
7.Bama (49)
8.UG (51)
9.LSU (53)
10.OM (55)
11.SC (62)
12.Vandy (65)
13.Missouri (70)
14.UF (73)
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:41 pm to
What the hell is UF doing?
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:43 pm to
Yeah I did not expect UF to be in such bad shape recruiting.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98918 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:43 pm to
There was some improvement among teams who haven't been very good on a consistent basis (i.e. South Carolina). Unfortunately we had some middling to upper end teams that struggled like Arkansas, Florida, and Vandy. That will right itself with possible coaching changes/pressure to improve.

You have some teams that are moving on the right direction like Barnes with Tennessee and Howland with State. They just weren't going to turn things around in one season.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 12:43 pm to
Florida at 14? That tells me that committed to Donovan not Florida
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