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re: SEC Basketball Programs ranked by all time win pct. & all time wins through 2017

Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:46 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94936 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:46 am to
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You left off Robert Horry...and he has more NBA Championship rings than all the LSU guys you mentioned combined...

Tell me you just compared Robert Horry to Shaq, Petit, and Pete.

Please tell me there is that much fricking Bama in you boy. I'll buy your redneck arse a beer cause I bet you got some good damn stories
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:03 am to
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Tell me you just compared Robert Horry to Shaq, Petit, and Pete.

Nope, not a comparison, just correcting the guy I was replying to who said that all Bama had was Reginald King and Latrell Sprewell. Horry wasn't as good as those 3 HOF guys, but he's the only non-Celtic in NBA history to have 7 or more titles, and that's not chopped liver...
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5682 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:10 am to
I'll remind you of the thread title.

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SEC Basketball Programs ranked by all time win pct. & all time wins through 2017
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:10 am to
Yep. Robert Horry has been on 7 NBA Championship teams.
Shaquille O'Neal has been on 4.
Bob Pettit has been on 1 (but played for 3 other titles vs Boston).


Wonder though, is Horry one of the "NBA's 50 Greatest Players" (like Pettit, Pete, and Shaq) ??

Has Horry been an 11-time NBA All-Star every year he played (like Pettit)?
Has Horry been one of only TWO players in NBA history to average more than 20 points a game in every season he played (like Pettit) ?
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:20 am to
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All fair points. It's not like 30 years ago was yesterday, but when we're talking about all-time, you yourself said that's only 30% of their history. So for their first 70% they didn't make the tournament.


Obviously the early part of our basketball history was terrible. I don't know the history of basketball at other SEC schools, but UF didn't hire a full time basketball coach until 1960 with Norm Sloan. It wasn't taken all that seriously.

That said, we've obviously made up for most of it the last 20 or so years.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:31 am to
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Yep. Robert Horry has been on 7 NBA Championship teams.
Shaquille O'Neal has been on 4.
Bob Pettit has been on 1 (but played for 3 other titles vs Boston).

You left off Glen Davis who also won 1 with Boston...

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Wonder though, is Horry one of the "NBA's 50 Greatest Players" (like Pettit, Pete, and Shaq) ??

Has Horry been an 11-time NBA All-Star every year he played (like Pettit)?
Has Horry been one of only TWO players in NBA history to average more than 20 points a game in every season he played (like Pettit) ?

Nope, nope, and nope. Just pointing out your error in saying Bama had just King and Sprewell when Horry is probably the best player Bama has put out. Here are some of Horry's accomplishments in the NBA:

- 7 championships (most of any who didn't play for the '60's Celtics)
- 1 of 3 players to win consecutive championships with 2 teams
- 1 of 2 players to win on 3 different teams
- Most 3 pointers all-time in the NBA Finals with 56
- Most 3pt field goals made without a miss in the playoffs (7)
- 7 steals (NBA Finals record) in GM2 of the 1995 Finals
- 1st player to have 100 steals, 100 blocks and 100 threes in 1 season
- 9th all time in playoffs 3pt Field Goals made
- Top 15 in steals and blocks in playoffs
- Scored 21 points in 4th/OT in Game 5 of the 2005 NBA Finals (prominent ESPN columnist Bill Simmons said of the performance, "Horry's Game 5 ranks alongside MJ's Game 6 in 1998, Worthy's Game 7 in 1988, Frazier's Game 7 in 1970 and every other clutch Finals performance over the years")

Magic Johnson said Horry was "one of the 10 best clutch players in league history."

He's not a Hall of Famer but the dude could ball...
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:38 am to
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one of the 10 best clutch players in league history.


There is no doubt about that
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:40 am to
Nice response thread.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30940 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:42 am to
Reading your Horry talk has me wondering about Little Rock native Derek Fisher. He seemed to play in the league forever and was in a lot of Finals over the years.

Ill have to look him up.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57766 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:03 am to
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But Florida is the clear #2
They had one coach have success. Their program might as well have been South Carolina until 2000.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:04 am to
And y'all have only had 1 coach win an NCAA title too.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57766 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:06 am to
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And y'all have only had 1 coach win an NCAA title too.
Yet have made noise in the tournament and flat out won more in our entire existence.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30940 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:08 am to
And multiple coaches reach the Final Four, Elite Eight, Sweet 16, win 30 games, win conference titles, etc.

Arkansas has also had coaches lose 3 or less games and NOT make the NCAA tourney because the team did not win its conference.

Nolan Richardson(1986-2002)
Record: 389-169(69.7%)
National Titles: 1
National Title Games: 2
Final Fours: 3
NCAA Tournaments: 13
Conference Championships: 5

Glen Rose(1934-1942 & 1952-1966)
Record: 325-204(61.4%)
National Titles: 0
National Title Games: 0
Final Fours: 2
NCAA Tournaments: 3
Conference Championships: 6

Eddie Sutton(1975-1985)
Record: 260-75(77.6%)
National Titles: 0
National Title Games: 0
Final Fours: 1
NCAA Tournaments: 9
Conference Championships: 5

Francis Schmidt(1923-1929)
Record: 113-17(89.9%)
Conference Championships: 4
Highest win pct. in school history
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:10 am to
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12. Auburn: 52.4%


Honestly a little surprised
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:18 am to
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They had one coach have success. Their program might as well have been South Carolina until 2000.


Lon Kruger went to the Final Four as well.

At the end of the day, whether we are looking at the last 20 years or the last 100, we still have 2 national titles. When that success occurred doesn't mean all that much, it happened.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1616 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:24 am to
The Hogs have had 4 different coaches take us to the Final Four in 3 differnt eras. Arkansas trumps Florida because of the sustained success across many eras and coaches. We have way more tournament invites, a much better win %., many more wins, and more Final Fours. Every expert All-Time BB ranking I have ever seen puts Arkansas above Florida. That said, I have much respect for the Gators program.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:28 am to
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we still have 2 national titles


That is glossing over the fact that Arkansas has a NC + a Runner up NC. Ya, the 2NC is obviously more impressive but it is by no means a trump card.


Arkansas is still a better program historically, but UF is in striking distance and trends suggest in 5-10 years that will be flipped
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:33 am to
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The limit in years hurts the #'s for Arkansas.


The 20 year gap with UK and Arkansas was in the early 1900's.

Between 1900 and 1920, teams played an average of like 9-10 games a year. UK played a total of 183 games in that 20 year span.

For UK to still be that far ahead of Arkansas in total wind is mind blowing. You could have gone undefeated from 1900-1920 and the gap would still be huge.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:38 am to
Lots of indistinguishability in there.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57351 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:40 am to
Princeton and Yale are the 2 best football programs ever also right?
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