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re: SEC all star team vs. Jacksonville
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:07 am to Tantal
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:07 am to Tantal
NFL teams, by their very nature, are essentially college "all-star" teams because only the very best collegiate players even make it to the NFL.
That said, could an All-SEC team beat them?
I would say they could, and probably would win the game 60% of the time. Mostly because an All-SEC squad would be the equivalent of having several first round draft picks on the field at once.
That said, could an All-SEC team beat them?
I would say they could, and probably would win the game 60% of the time. Mostly because an All-SEC squad would be the equivalent of having several first round draft picks on the field at once.
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:11 am to skrayper
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I would say they could, and probably would win the game 60% of the time. Mostly because an All-SEC squad would be the equivalent of having several first round draft picks on the field at once.
First of all, it wouldn't be the equivalent of having a team comprised mostly of first round picks. Second of all, how many first round picks turn out to be busts every year? Yet you think a team of All-SEC players would beat NFL veterans?
This thread is full of retards.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:33 am to John Maplethorpe
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The Chicago Charities College All-Star Game was a preseason football tilt played annually (except 1974) from 1934 to 1976 between the National Football League champions and a team of star college seniors from the previous year. (There was one exception: The 1935 game involved the 1934 runner-up Chicago Bears instead of the champion New York Giants.) The game originally was a benefit for Chicago-area charities. Except for the 1943 and 1944 games which were held at Northwestern University, the game was always played at Soldier Field in Chicago. The first game, played before a crowd of 79,432 on August 31, 1934, was a scoreless tie between the all-stars and the Chicago Bears. The following year, a game that included future president Gerald Ford, the Bears won, 5-0. The first all-star win was in 1937 for a squad that featured Sammy Baugh. In the 1940s the games were competitive affairs that attracted large crowds to Soldier Field. But as the talent level of pro football improved, the all-stars had diminishing success. The last all-star win came in 1963, when a team coached by legendary quarterback Otto Graham beat the Green Bay Packers 20-17. By the 1970s, crowds for the event were dwindling. In addition, NFL coaches were reluctant to part with their new draftees (who would miss part of training camp) for a meaningless exhibition in which the players might be injured. A players' strike forced the cancellation of the 1974 game. The last game took place in a torrential downpour on July 23, 1976. Despite featuring stars such as Chuck Muncie, Mike Pruitt, Lee Roy Selmon and Jackie Slater, the collegians were hopelessly outclassed by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh was leading 24-0 late in the third quarter when play was suspended due to the awful weather conditions. The game was not restarted. Chicago Tribune Charities Inc., the sponsor of the game, elected not to bring it back for 1977. A program from the 1941 game is shown here. Overall, the NFL teams won 31 of the 42 games. The all-stars won nine. Two games ended in ties.
Anyone remember these games?
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:35 am to John Maplethorpe
MJD would make them look silly.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:39 am to Swagga
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This comes up every year, and while Jacksonville is awful. They still win
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:53 am to John Maplethorpe
There's no way that the college linemen would stack up to any NFL line.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:10 am to tidalmouse
[link=(1961 Phlladelphia Eagles vs College All-Stars Newsreel)]1961 Philadelphia Eagles vs College All-Stars[/link]
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 8:12 am
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:11 am to Landmass
Exactly. It's like after watching the first week of college football and the next week the first real regular season NFL game starts. The first few minutes look so freaking physical because you've been watching college ball.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:12 am to PortCityTiger82
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Exactly. It's like after watching the first week of college football and the next week the first real regular season NFL game starts. The first few minutes look so freaking physical because you've been watching college ball.
I have watched some sloptastic NFL football these first two weeks.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:14 am to GatorsGators
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Alabama would give the Jags a run for their money... They're that bad.
Every year there is a best college team vs worst NFL team thread and every year it's retarded.
The players on the worst NFL team were still some of the best players in CFB and have gone through NFL conditioning and preparation. It would almost never be a really close game.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:15 am to SammyTiger
Yeah, but the difference on the physicality of the game is obvious. After watching NCAA for a while those first few minutes of NFL just look brutal in comparison.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:17 am to tidalmouse
No way a modern NFL team loses to a college all-star team.
The SEC wouldn't stand a chance.
ESPECIALLY if Nick Saban was the head coach.
The SEC wouldn't stand a chance.
ESPECIALLY if Nick Saban was the head coach.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:25 am to John Maplethorpe
The Jags by as much as they wanted to win by.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:27 am to oleheat
It's also funny how many people here think drafting nothing but SEC players is a surefire way to build a great team. Some of the best players in the NFL will always come from non-SEC teams. Furthermore, some of the best players from the SEC will not be first round draft picks...in fact, some may not have even made this NFL-slaying superteam full of All-SEC godmen.
And for everyone who thinks this would be a good game or, if you're mentally deficient, that the college players could pull out a win the Jags wouldn't even need a QB, which is fortunate considering we don't have one...we could put MJD in the backfield all day and there wouldn't be a damn thing the college players could do about it.
And for everyone who thinks this would be a good game or, if you're mentally deficient, that the college players could pull out a win the Jags wouldn't even need a QB, which is fortunate considering we don't have one...we could put MJD in the backfield all day and there wouldn't be a damn thing the college players could do about it.
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:45 am to Tom288
I think that the NFL team, despite how bad they are (I mean my poor Raiders team just beat the Jags for crying out loud) would destroy any college team, or a team made up of college players.
But to make it interesting, I think you would need to give each team the same amount of time to prepare. It isn't like you can just throw together a bunch of SEC all-stars and give them a week of Senior Bowl like practices and expect them to be anywhere near an NFL team that has gone through off season workouts, mini-camp, and preseason games.
Give each team a month to prepare, and a couple of warm-up games. The SEC All Stars games can be against similar all star squads from the Big XII and PAC-12. The Jags games must be against the Raiders and the Panthers. The entire coaching staff for the SEC squad can be made up of current SEC head coaches. Spurrier is the OC. Saban is the DC. Obviously Richt is HC, so he can have something to lose control of. Fill in the other positions as you will.
The game would have to be played at the SEC stadium of choice. And with the college rules. No two-feet down in bounds for completions, and the penalties for PI would be the college one, etc. You could make a case for several stadiums. Obviously Neyland is the largest, but the pros don't play in huge stadiums. I'd just make it a toss up between Georgia, Alabama, and LSU. There's really nothing special about any of the others. You could throw out the MS schools, Vandy, Kentucky, Arky, USCe, and Mizzou right off the bat. And A&M hasn't been SEC long enough to warrant using their stadium. It would take a few weeks to pressure wash off all the jizz anyways.
But to make it interesting, I think you would need to give each team the same amount of time to prepare. It isn't like you can just throw together a bunch of SEC all-stars and give them a week of Senior Bowl like practices and expect them to be anywhere near an NFL team that has gone through off season workouts, mini-camp, and preseason games.
Give each team a month to prepare, and a couple of warm-up games. The SEC All Stars games can be against similar all star squads from the Big XII and PAC-12. The Jags games must be against the Raiders and the Panthers. The entire coaching staff for the SEC squad can be made up of current SEC head coaches. Spurrier is the OC. Saban is the DC. Obviously Richt is HC, so he can have something to lose control of. Fill in the other positions as you will.
The game would have to be played at the SEC stadium of choice. And with the college rules. No two-feet down in bounds for completions, and the penalties for PI would be the college one, etc. You could make a case for several stadiums. Obviously Neyland is the largest, but the pros don't play in huge stadiums. I'd just make it a toss up between Georgia, Alabama, and LSU. There's really nothing special about any of the others. You could throw out the MS schools, Vandy, Kentucky, Arky, USCe, and Mizzou right off the bat. And A&M hasn't been SEC long enough to warrant using their stadium. It would take a few weeks to pressure wash off all the jizz anyways.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:03 pm to CatFan81
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It's not the same game now, fricktard
So now we're putting qualifiers on it?
You made an absolute statement, one which I proved was factually incorrect. You can't simply go back and say "well, that's not REALLY what I meant".
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:23 pm to Tantal
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Yeah, they're sophomores, but those four are NFL ready RIGHT NOW. Especially Evans. 6'5"/225-230/4.5-40/39" vertical. Even as grown-arse men, there aren't many corners, pro or otherwise, that can overcome the size disparity.
Skill positions the SEC all-star team may have a chance to do some things. However, the blitz packages and the defense played in the NFL is just another level. I mean who is going to put pressure on the NFL O-line? The only guys who play in the NFL are all-conference level players.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:26 pm to John Maplethorpe
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Agreed. But an all star team is going to be way more talented than any top team, individually.
And it still won't matter
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:34 pm to Buckeye06
I would certainly give the edge to the NFL team, but I don't think it's such a given that an all-SEC team wouldn't stand a chance. Most of the players on an all SEC team will be starting for an NFL team as soon as next year. There are probably 14 QB's in the SEC better than Gabbert right now. Gurley and Yeldon are big enough and strong enough to play right now. Clowney will put pressure on QB's next year, so why a year sooner would he not? Again, I give the edge to the NFL but I don't think it's as obvious as some make it out to be.
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