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re: Seattle caves. They are now "Home of the 12s"

Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:56 pm to
So no more tshirts, posters, etc. with 12th Man or Home of the 12th Man. Can't help but think this will cut significantly into their merchandising sales.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32213 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:57 pm to
It was the name of a publication; not just a reference to the term in an article.

Not arguing whether or not the courts got it right. I am sure they did. Copyright and trademark laws are pretty black and white. But, A&M was not the first to use it. All I am saying.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17347 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:00 pm to
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So no more tshirts, posters, etc. with 12th Man or Home of the 12th Man. Can't help but think this will cut significantly into their merchandising sales.


They couldn't sell stuff with "12th man" on it according to our licensing agreement with them. That's why they went with "the 12s." They want to sell shite, and they can't sell anything with "12th man" on it.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:05 pm to
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the 12th Man. Can't help but think this will cut significantly into their merchandising sales.



ehh i doubt it. The 12 is a variation of the 12th man or whatever. People will gravitate towards it since it symbolizes that the fans are a big factor in the game. People will buy the shirts and posters regardless.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:16 pm to
The Texas Aggies suited up the original 12th Man, E. King Gill, to play in a game in 1922.

That is why CFB's largest student section stands throughout the game.

It looks like we may be through with Seattle and their crooked owner giving us low dollar to use our trademark.

They just can't stomach admitting that football is a man's game.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:18 pm to
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It looks like we may be through with Seattle and their crooked owner giving us low dollar to use our trademark.

They just can't stomach admitting that football is a man's game.
They just went to back to back Super Bowls. You can't even win your division with your school's best player in team's history. See the difference
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:21 pm to
They're 0-5 vs ranked opponents at home? Yikes!
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:33 pm to
Crooks win games to. And their owner is a crook.

Just because they went to back to back Superbowls doesn't mean they aren't so politically correct that they won't admit football is a man's game.

They probably have special LGBT bathrooms at their stadium.

Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:35 pm to
We won our bowl.

But since the Badger's kicked an SEC team in the arse in their bowl, we don't have much we can say back to you.

Posted by Felonious Punk
Member since Aug 2015
97 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:37 pm to
Aggies telling pros what to do. That's pretty impressive.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Ours are nicer

Spent the bulk of our renovation $$$ on those, tbh.
I hear it will be like walking into a Roman orgy when trying to go to the bathroom during halftime.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32213 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Aggies telling pros what to do. That's pretty impressive.
Not really. An individual holding a copyright or trademark could have just as much clout as A&M does. The difference might be whether or not an individual could afford the legal fees associated with fighting Seattle.
A&M is certainly within their rights to do this but I am curious as to how they are damaged or made any less whole by a pro team using the 12th man thing. Sounds like greed to me.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73312 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Damn shame. More people knew it as the "12th Man" than A&M.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:01 pm to
You think it's a shame, too?

Good.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44002 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Trademark law is basically setup that if you own a trademark you have to be actively using it. If you're not using it then you lose the right to that trademark. The same goes that you have to be actively protecting it. If you become aware of incidents that may infringe on your trademark you have a duty to go out and investigate those and make a determination on whether you need to give somebody a call, send a cease and desist letter, or make a determination that it probably didn't infringe within the confines of what the law is and so no action is required.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Sounds like greed to me.


So? What's your point?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:37 pm to
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"home of the 12s" sounds stupid. 


Yes, but it's perfect for Seattle.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:59 pm to
Wow. A team with championship appearances and a recent title gives in to a collection of scrubs.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50247 posts
Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Wow. A team with championship appearances and a recent title gives in to a collection of scrubs.


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