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Save College Football: A New Regular Season and Post Season Format
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:33 pm
This is something I've been tinkering around with. I've posted it on the Aggy Ark to some mixed results, and updated accordingly. Now I want the Rant's criticism. I want all your criticisms. I want to make this proposal better. Take some Adderall or drink a cop of coffee if you graduated from Alabama or any institution that wouldn't be considered as prestigious because it's going to take some brain power.
Here is a brief synopsis:
Expanding the playoff to 8 or 16 or 32 is a mistake. Leaving it untouched is also a mistake. It doesn't make college football better, it makes it worse, and that's the way it's trending. Bowl ratings will continue to fall and the powers that be will try to expand the current format because it's the path of least resistance. I have a better idea. Rank the conferences. Every out of conference and bowl game matters towards determining your conference's rank, and that rank determines if your conference champs gets a bye or a double bye in next years playoff. SEC dominance would be on full display and no one will benefit more than the fans down South. Out of conference games will matter. Every fan will have a rooting interest in every out of conference game. Every fan will have a rooting interest in every bowl game. The number of relevant teams doubles overnight.
But read the full proposal for a more detailed explanation of how it would work, and why it needs to happen.
1.) SEC 2.203411605
2.) ACC 2.057784119
3.) PAC_12 1.368492482
4.) B1G 1.277142198
5.) BIG_12 1.019091693
6.) AAC 0.600617141
7.) SUN_BELT -0.577469378
8.) C_USA -0.721466645
9.) MWC -0.824018353
10.) MAC -1.502140523
Here is a brief synopsis:
Expanding the playoff to 8 or 16 or 32 is a mistake. Leaving it untouched is also a mistake. It doesn't make college football better, it makes it worse, and that's the way it's trending. Bowl ratings will continue to fall and the powers that be will try to expand the current format because it's the path of least resistance. I have a better idea. Rank the conferences. Every out of conference and bowl game matters towards determining your conference's rank, and that rank determines if your conference champs gets a bye or a double bye in next years playoff. SEC dominance would be on full display and no one will benefit more than the fans down South. Out of conference games will matter. Every fan will have a rooting interest in every out of conference game. Every fan will have a rooting interest in every bowl game. The number of relevant teams doubles overnight.
But read the full proposal for a more detailed explanation of how it would work, and why it needs to happen.
1.) SEC 2.203411605
2.) ACC 2.057784119
3.) PAC_12 1.368492482
4.) B1G 1.277142198
5.) BIG_12 1.019091693
6.) AAC 0.600617141
7.) SUN_BELT -0.577469378
8.) C_USA -0.721466645
9.) MWC -0.824018353
10.) MAC -1.502140523
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 6:55 pm
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Expanding the playoff to 8 or 16 or 32 is a mistake
lost me here.
I think the P5 champs and 3 at large teams should have a shot at the title. I don't like just 4 teams having a shot.
I do think that a 32+ team playoff would be too much though.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:47 pm to CockInYourEar
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lost me here.
Read the proposal. It talks about expanding to precisely 20 teams, four of which are mos likely scrubs, just not in the obvious way.
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I think the P5 champs and 3 at large teams should have a shot at the title.
I think this is a mistake for a couple reasons. One, it's just more of the status quo. Bowl games will continue to be irrelevant. Out of conference games, if you just have an auto bid for winning your conference, continue to be irrelevant. It treats the Big 12 just like it treats the SEC. There needs to be a way to distinguish among the Power 5. And it will just give incentive to the rest of the college football world to give up.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:03 pm to TeLeFaWx
Wtf? Why did this get anchored? It is quality discussion
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:05 pm to texag7
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Wtf? Why did this get anchored? It is quality discussion
No clue. It seems like legit off season discussion.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:30 pm to texag7
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Wtf? Why did this get anchored? It is quality discussion
Well. Since you might be one of 3 people to see it before it slips off the front page for some reason, any suggestions?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
Thread title is lacking. That's the only thing I can think of. Edit the title and I'll un-anchor this bad boy.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:38 pm to LewDawg
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Thread title is lacking. That's the only thing I can think of. Edit the title and I'll un-anchor this bad boy.
Ah. Yeah I guess it's click baity in a way. Will this new one work?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
All good to me!
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:56 pm to LewDawg
I wish that FBS would do the same type of deal as the FCS. 24 team bracket for the natty, and bowls for the rest of the .500 or better teams. Cut the regular season from 12 to 11 and go at it like they do.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:04 pm to chawk195
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I wish that FBS would do the same type of deal as the FCS. 24 team bracket for the natty, and bowls for the rest of the .500 or better teams. Cut the regular season from 12 to 11 and go at it like they do.
My proposal is more similar to tho FCS's current post season format than the current 4 team playoff. It's 20 teams with byes and double byes.
What's radically different is how the regular season impacts the post season. That's the truly transformative element.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:24 pm to TeLeFaWx
Playoffs are so much better than any other format out there it's ridiculous
College football was basically gymnastics in pads for a damn century. It's embarrassing if you really think about it. You might as well give team points based on artistic flair
Anybody who liked the bcs or poll system was either scared of playing other teams or retarded.
Even though we still have some sort of voting system at least it's starting to be more inclusive. It just needs to keep going
College football was basically gymnastics in pads for a damn century. It's embarrassing if you really think about it. You might as well give team points based on artistic flair
Anybody who liked the bcs or poll system was either scared of playing other teams or retarded.
Even though we still have some sort of voting system at least it's starting to be more inclusive. It just needs to keep going
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:29 pm to MeatPants
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Playoffs are so much better than any other format out there it's ridiculous
College football was basically gymnastics in pads for a damn century. It's embarrassing if you really think about it. You might as well give team points based on artistic flair
Anybody who liked the bcs or poll system was either scared of playing other teams or retarded.
Even though we still have some sort of voting system at least it's starting to be more inclusive. It just needs to keep going
It will keep going, that much is apparent, but it won't be any more inclusive, and it won't fix the issues of 80% of the teams not ending up in the playoff playing in irrelevant bowl games.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
If they the bowl games are playoff games, how are they irrelevant?
Honestly the past 2 years is the only time I've watched more bowl games other than LSU's and the national title game.
I like the format that we have except it needs to expand to at least 6 teams but 8 would be better.
Like someone mentioned previously, power 5 champs and 3 at large bids.
Or go to exactly what the FCS uses.
Honestly the past 2 years is the only time I've watched more bowl games other than LSU's and the national title game.
I like the format that we have except it needs to expand to at least 6 teams but 8 would be better.
Like someone mentioned previously, power 5 champs and 3 at large bids.
Or go to exactly what the FCS uses.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:44 pm to MeatPants
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College football was basically gymnastics in pads for a damn century.
This is the most extreme and ridiculous comments I've ever seen. You obviously weren't a college football fan and tinkering with the system isn't going to win over someone like you who's only interested in post-season hype.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:49 pm to Jenar Boy
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If they the bowl games are playoff games, how are they irrelevant?
The 3 playoff games, or 7 when they expand to 8, will be relevant, of course.
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Honestly the past 2 years is the only time I've watched more bowl games other than LSU's and the national title game.
Bowl game ratings and attendance are down. Way down.
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I like the format that we have except it needs to expand to at least 6 teams but 8 would be better.
Like someone mentioned previously, power 5 champs and 3 at large bids.
Or go to exactly what the FCS uses.
Read my proposal and see what you think. I think you'll be surprised about what it means for the post season, as well as its impact on the regular season.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:51 pm to MeatPants
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Even though we still have some sort of voting system at least it's starting to be more inclusive. It just needs to keep going
That would make it like college basketball, where so many teams reach the tournament that the regular season is worthless. It's not about being "inclusive," it's about having the best team win the championship. Large tournaments mean that whoever is playing best at the time is the champion, and this is often not the best team. Take the NFL, for instance, where you see teams go 9-7 and then win the Super Bowl. Or teams clinch a playoff spot and then sit their starters for 4 games. Having a very small playoff ensures that every game matters.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:04 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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That would make it like college basketball, where so many teams reach the tournament that the regular season is worthless. It's not about being "inclusive," it's about having the best team win the championship. Large tournaments mean that whoever is playing best at the time is the champion, and this is often not the best team. Take the NFL, for instance, where you see teams go 9-7 and then win the Super Bowl. Or teams clinch a playoff spot and then sit their starters for 4 games. Having a very small playoff ensures that every game matters.
I'd suggest reading my proposal and see if you think it presents a decent compromise. Going undefeated essentially puts you against a double digit seed for spot in the Final Four. Almost identical to where we are now.
And the concept that "every game matters" sounds nice, but in reality, that's not the dynamic in play. When the Big 12 said, "One True Champion" it made sense in one context, but only if the cards fell correctly. In today's game, most national champions have at least one loss, and there are so many teams that don't play eachother in the regular season, a playoff is a great way to resolve these things, but I think there is a much better system, the one I presented.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
frick no, this isn't college basketball. Too physical of a sport to have this many games in a playoff, and also every conf doesn't deserve to get a spot.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:26 pm to rockytop627
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frick no, this isn't college basketball. Too physical of a sport to have this many games in a playoff, and also every conf doesn't deserve to get a spot.
I won't disagree that it's a lot of games, but as far as every conference getting a spot, I'd suggest reading my proposal as to why that's important, and I'd also show how insignificant the participation of the conference champs from the Group of 5 would really be.
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