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re: Saban's in a no-lose situation.

Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:13 am to
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:13 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:18 am to
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This thread is just bad.
It's bad to the Alabama/Saban haters because it's true, and you know it. There hasn't been the first logical retort to my statement....and there won't be.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by Coon2000
America
Member since Sep 2010
351 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:21 am to
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Do you honestly believe that the man gives a minute fraction of a shite about what other people think? Have you not been around for these years when he was winning all the championships, and being defiled by both media and rival fans (and everybody else who hates winners) at every turn?Hell, the man is bullet-proof to all this envy and jealousy...if anything, it fuels him!.....and these idiots on all these forums don't even realize it. He really has a name for all this stuff...he calls it clutter.



Saban has never been able to handle criticism from anyone. He is far from bullet-proof. He is a thinned skin pussy.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:22 am to
uh, Saban's currently 0 and 2 against up tempo offenses

but y'alls players are fat so...
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:24 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:26 am to
Or science proves common sense, a finesse style is safer for players than his smash mouth style, his blatant hypocrisy on the issue for refusal to change to a style safer for players(HUNH) loses him recruit after recruit because momma wants his boy to be safe. He then orders Lane to dial it up as a knee nerk reaction and chaos ensues. Can't fricking wait.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:29 am to
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Saban has never been able to handle criticism from anyone. He is far from bullet-proof. He is a thinned skin pussy.

...Really?...and that's why he's been so responsive these last few days trying to explain himself...right. Pal, you don't read people very well. If he's forced to respond to something (i.e. face-to-face question) he will and forcefully, if necessary. But you never see him taking the initiative to respond to the "clutter"...and that's exactly what he tells folks (media included).
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:30 am to
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Do you honestly believe that the man gives a minute fraction of a shite about what other people think? Have you not been around for these years when he was winning all the championships, and being defiled by both media and rival fans (and everybody else who hates winners) at every turn?Hell, the man is bullet-proof to all this envy and jealousy...if anything, it fuels him!.....and these idiots on all these forums don't even realize it. He really has a name for all this stuff...he calls it clutter.


What is illogical is how much you worship this man and are so blind to his faults. Winning football game is so important to you that you overlook what a rotten personality he has and how disdainful he is of his own fans as well as how sneaky and corrupt he's come across to the rest of college football. Trying to defend him will fall on deaf ears, bank on it.
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:31 am to
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Do you honestly believe that the man gives a minute fraction of a shite about what other people think?


Yes I do. I am sure of it. No one needs to tell South Carolina fans about having a coach who does not give a "fraction of a shite about what other people think". That describes the HBC way more the Saban who most definitely cares what other people think.


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and being defiled by both media


LOL. Not sure if serious.Defied by media? He is on every pre-game and halftime show pushing his agenda every time Bama isn't playing for the title. The media praises Saban and makes him out to be a lot more than he is. He is trying to alter the rules to fit his style, no way around it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140436 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:36 am to
Please leave Pensacola and move back to BFE, AL.

Thanks.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:38 am to
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Rule change is voted down- he goes back to exactly what he's been doing quite sucessfully for years.


you mean giving up 37 ppg to hurry up teams?
Posted by Coon2000
America
Member since Sep 2010
351 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:40 am to
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..Really?...and that's why he's been so responsive these last few days trying to explain himself...right. Pal, you don't read people very well. If he's forced to respond to something (i.e. face-to-face question) he will and forcefully, if necessary. But you never see him taking the initiative to respond to the "clutter"...and that's exactly what he tells folks (media included).



Yea, like how he was so responsive as to why St. Thomas Aquinas banned him from the campus. You know the real reason, right? You do know what the "clutter" was, right?
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:43 am to
quote:

you mean giving up 37 ppg to hurry up teams?


damn
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11024 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:48 am to
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he calls this type stuff "clutter"


yeah,... "clutter" that he created

Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
1383 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:49 am to
i like Saban. i think he's done an amazing job even considered the resources that Bama has, because the situation he inherited was in shambles, including a demanding alumni base that was micromanaging. honestly, i thought Alabama would have floundered w/ the transition like UT has done post-Fulmer.

anyway, yes Saban comes off as sounding whinny because he's gone out of his way to kill HUNH. his teams don't favor HUNH, but he can beat them. personally, i hate how college football keeps changing the rules. i wish they'd go back to the 1980 rule book. but also think Nick may be a pureset of the game that involves a lot of in game coaching and adjustments, which HUNH eliminates. if HUNH takes over college football, it could permanently change the game like the NBA has screwed up basketball. i think HUNH will eventually die out like the run-and-shoot, but i'd hate to think of college football as a continuous games like soccer.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:54 am to
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What is illogical is how much you worship this man and are so blind to his faults. Winning football game is so important to you that you overlook what a rotten personality he has and how disdainful he is of his own fans as well as how sneaky and corrupt he's come across to the rest of college football. Trying to defend him will fall on deaf ears, bank on it.
Tampa, folks like you are a real piece of work! First, I/we didn't hire Saban to be our best friend. I/we hired him to be the best kick-arse football coach in the country, and that's what he is! All this bullshite denigrating his morals and character are just that...bullshite. His program is world-class. His graduation rate is exceptional and, with few exceptions, his program is about as clean as you'll find, comparing it to others its size.
Finally, he certainly hasn't asked Alabama fans to defend him. Hell, I've stated a half a dozen times that I'm not a fan of the rule change, but because he's Alabama's coach and I trust his opinion, I go along with him. For those fans who are against the rule change, that's perfectly OK, its their opinion. Bottomline, this is like any internal Alabama business, there are folks on both sides of the topic and at the end of the day, we're all still Alabama fans.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by BoudreauxinGA
Member since Aug 2007
943 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:57 am to
For Coon 2000

".Truth & Rumors :36 AM ET 05.21 | Nick Saban's request to visit Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas was denied by coach George Smith, who noted it was nothing personal. After Mike Shula was fired, Smith sent a letter to Alabama's athletic director and president stating Bama's coaches weren't welcome on his campus because of how Shula's dismissal ''was handled.'' Saban, who recruited South Florida well as Louisiana State's coach, didn't have a Dade or Broward player in his first Bama signing class.

Miami Herald"

What does this have to do with anything in this thread may I ask? I am an LSU follower, and admit Saban irks me, but I fail to see the connection.
Posted by Coon2000
America
Member since Sep 2010
351 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:03 am to
Something that was not made public was that St. Thomas was fund raising to improve their athletic facilities. Saban pledged the final dollar figure that was needed to start construction. The construction commenced, Saban left Miami and St. Thomas was on the hook for the money Saban pledged but did not give. He did eventually give the money much later on. It was a significant amount, somewhere around $250,000 or more.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:09 am to
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What does this have to do with anything in this thread may I ask? I am an LSU follower, and admit Saban irks me, but I fail to see the connection.
After reading the rest of the posts on this thread, the question that any unbiased person would have is "What does this have to do with anything in this thread may I ask?" It's the same old gang of losers everytime.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:15 am to
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Something that was not made public was that St. Thomas was fund raising to improve their athletic facilities. Saban pledged the final dollar figure that was needed to start construction. The construction commenced, Saban left Miami and St. Thomas was on the hook for the money Saban pledged but did not give. He did eventually give the money much later on. It was a significant amount, somewhere around $250,000 or more.
So Saban gave the school one quarter of a million dollars of his own money, and he's an a-hole..that about sizes up what the other posts contribute to this thread.
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