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Saban shutting down the Miles run game isn't unusual, especially in BDS
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:18 am
(Throwing out 2007 because it was Saban's first year)
2008 46 carries, 201 yards
2009 29 carries, 95 yards
2010 45 carries, 225 yards
2011 41 carries, 148 yards
1/9 27 carries, 39 yards
2012 49 carries, 139 yards
2013 31 carries, 43 yards
2014 56 carries, 183 yards
2015 26 carries, 54 yards
Many an LSU fan (myself included) thought that this year would be different, mostly because LF7 has looked superhuman this season. But, it has nothing to do with the RB. In 2009, 2013, and 2015 it didn't matter whether it was Spencer Ware, Jeremy Hill, or Leonard Fournette, because the Bama front 7 dominated the LSU OL in all of those games.
Now here is the problem for LSU fans. We have seen this happen 4 times now (bolded games above). Miles continues to try to run right at the Bama front 7, where they are the strongest. You can call us whiners if you want, which is probably true to an extent of any passionate fanbase, but watching your HC who otherwise has done an outstanding job running the program continue to trot out a failed gameplan against the team your fanbase wants to beat 10x more than any other opponent is absolutely maddening. I don't think "stubborn" is a strong enough word for the Miles offensive gameplan against Bama.
2008 46 carries, 201 yards
2009 29 carries, 95 yards
2010 45 carries, 225 yards
2011 41 carries, 148 yards
1/9 27 carries, 39 yards
2012 49 carries, 139 yards
2013 31 carries, 43 yards
2014 56 carries, 183 yards
2015 26 carries, 54 yards
Many an LSU fan (myself included) thought that this year would be different, mostly because LF7 has looked superhuman this season. But, it has nothing to do with the RB. In 2009, 2013, and 2015 it didn't matter whether it was Spencer Ware, Jeremy Hill, or Leonard Fournette, because the Bama front 7 dominated the LSU OL in all of those games.
Now here is the problem for LSU fans. We have seen this happen 4 times now (bolded games above). Miles continues to try to run right at the Bama front 7, where they are the strongest. You can call us whiners if you want, which is probably true to an extent of any passionate fanbase, but watching your HC who otherwise has done an outstanding job running the program continue to trot out a failed gameplan against the team your fanbase wants to beat 10x more than any other opponent is absolutely maddening. I don't think "stubborn" is a strong enough word for the Miles offensive gameplan against Bama.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:20 am to RidiculousHype
Sure. Switch to a no huddle spread. You'll go through crap seasons like A&M and Auburn but you'll have a better chance of beating Bama.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 10:21 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:24 am to RidiculousHype
Hyperbole aside, what Bama did best this game was control the ball. They flipped the script on LSU, stuffed the run, and rattled Harris. And they did it by being bad mfers. Even Lil Hump came up and banged on the mighty LF. It was cute. But yeah, 48 plays on offense doesn't give you much leeway.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:26 am to genro
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Sure. Switch to a no huddle spread. You'll go through crap seasons like A&M and Auburn but you'll have a better chance of beating Bama
We have the athletes and talent to use it, when needed.
I'm sure you knew that was the point but chose to be a smart arse instead.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:27 am to lsusteve1
quote:What you said didn't contradict what I said
We have the athletes and talent to use it, when needed.
I'm sure you knew that was the point but chose to be a smart arse instead.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:30 am to RidiculousHype
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I don't think "stubborn" is a strong enough word for the Miles offensive gameplan against Bama.
I don't think it's just the gameplan. It includes the system that Miles recruits to. The gameplan is just an extension of that. If you're running and recruiting to a smashmouth, pro-style system, that's what your gameplan will look like, and your passing game will reflect that.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:30 am to genro
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Sure. Switch to a no huddle spread. You'll go through crap seasons like A&M and Auburn but you'll have a better chance of beating Bama.
This about sums it up. Les refuses to change so we will always struggle with Bama. Nick refuses to change so he will always slip up to the Ole Misses & Auburn's of the college football world. All of the schemes in the SEC have their weaknesses. LSU can beat 90% of the teams on their schedule with what they run.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:36 am to RidiculousHype
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, but watching your HC who otherwise has done an outstanding job running the program continue to trot out a failed gameplan against the team your fanbase wants to beat 10x more than any other opponent is absolutely maddening.
IMO it has more to do with the complete failure to establish a legitimate passing threat. Outside of 2013 all the post-Flynn seasons have been marked by horrible to mediocre QB performances. Saban doesn't respect our QBs and for good reason.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:42 am to lsusteve1
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We have the athletes and talent to use it, when needed.
I think to run it successfully and consistently, you have to recruit for it.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:51 am to RidiculousHype
Update your sig
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:57 am to MightyYat
quote:Nick has evolved and changed though, recruiting has changed, and the offense has changed. This is not the same team it was in '09/'10/'11/'12.
This about sums it up. Les refuses to change so we will always struggle with Bama. Nick refuses to change so he will always slip up to the Ole Misses & Auburn's of the college football world. All of the schemes in the SEC have their weaknesses. LSU can beat 90% of the teams on their schedule with what they run.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:58 am to RidiculousHype
I was worried before the game. I knew the Bama D was good, but Fournette has been spectacular. But when I heard CLM before the game interview and he told the female sideline reporter that he had told the team to treat it "just like any other game", I felt like he was dismissing a great opportunity. Why would a great head coach go into a game of that magnitude, with a hostile fan base packed to the rim, and tell his players to treat it like "just another game? At least CNS will try his best to light a fire under the player's azzes and get them motivated to go out and play for 60 minutes. LSU is a great team, and I have the utmost respect for them, and if they had came into BDS with the same attitude that HF and the Rebels did last month today would have been a totally different picture.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:01 am to craigbiggio
You're not completing to many passes when you constantly run play action with 1 receiving threat
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