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re: Richt today and Miles vs. Auburn in '07
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:00 pm to bama1959
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:00 pm to bama1959
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Aubie he's dead right. Miles was lucky as hell that the time didn't run off the clock on that play ending any chance for another one
So ridiculous. Everything that could possibly go wrong from the clock standpoint went wrong, and we still had time left to kick a FG if we needed to.
Flynn took 20 seconds to get off the snap instead of 10 or so like he should have. The clock operator let the clock run for two or three more seconds after the play was over. Still, even with that 12-13 seconds wasted, we had a second left.
The point is that Miles made the right decision and won, while Richt made the wrong one and lost. Both deserved what they got.
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:01 pm to Swoopin
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Miles took a shot with 7 seconds left.
Wrong
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:01 pm to Nuts4LSU
They didn't get the snap off till 7 seconds, those 13 bled off seconds are probably more reason to hold it against Miles had it not worked.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:02 pm to rolltide1283
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The difference is that Miles done that in regulation with not much time left
He done what?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:04 pm to LOYALBAMA
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Miles made the call with 7 seconds or so on the clock
And Alabama beat LSU on 11-5-11. We know how you gumps are with rewriting history. When Flynn got to the line to start the snap count, there were over 20 seconds left in the game.
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Richt made the call when it was a tie and the worst thing a missed FG would do is send it to another OT
So what? The worst a sack or interception (barring a TD return) would have done is send it to another OT, too. The bottom line is Richt played ultra-conservatively trying not to lose, while Miles took a reasonable risk trying to win.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:04 pm to Swoopin
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They didn't get the snap off till 7 seconds, those 13 bled off seconds are probably more reason to hold it against Miles had it not worked.
Miles called the play @25 seconds. How does that translate to "miles took a shot with 7 seconds left"? It doesn't.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:07 pm to LOYALBAMA
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LOYALBAMA
quote:Maybe you should focus on your own coaches shortcoming.
Damn some fans just can't admit when their coach fuks up.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:08 pm to Robot Santa
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2007 LSU-Auburn: In regulation, LSU down 1. LSU in FG range with 6 or 7 seconds left in the game and 1 timeo
Damn you should trying watching a game before pontificating on it. You're just flat wrong about this and no matter how many times you repeat it it's still flat wrong.
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The subsequent play would not end the game, no matter the outcome
Yes it would, if Georgia scored.
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Miles should have kicked the FG
He would have if the throw to the end zone hadn't worked. He gave himself two chances to win instead of one, and because of that, he didn't need the second one. Richt threw away his 2nd and 3rd down plays to set up a questionable field goal. He gave himself one chance to win instead of three.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:09 pm to SECond2none™
How about you get your panties out of a wad long enough to realize I defended Miles call. The point was that Miles went for the win but would have also been justified had he set up the FG.
CMR had zero reason to kneel/center it on 2ND DOWN, leaving 2 plays on the field when all he needed was 3 yards.
CMR had zero reason to kneel/center it on 2ND DOWN, leaving 2 plays on the field when all he needed was 3 yards.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:12 pm to Swoopin
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How about you get your panties out of a wad long enough to realize I defended Miles call. The point was that Miles went for the win but would have also been justified had he set up the FG.
There is a difference between having you're panties in a wad and correcting someone. Grow up. He did not take a shot with 7 seconds left.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:16 pm to SECond2none™
Okay, well he failed in instilling clock awareness on his offense.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:18 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yes I know there would have been possibly one to two seconds left. You don't know how the refs would have called it.
Three seconds were clearly left. Unless the refs were just blatantly cheating (admittedly always a possibility when playing Auburn), there would have been time left to kick a FG.
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there was some bad clock mismanagement that happened at the end of the game
All that was mismanaged was that it took too long to get the play off after it was sent in.
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But there should have been a timeout called
Even with the snap being delayed several seconds needlessly, we still had three seconds left after the play. When should we have called time out? And why would we want to leave Auburn more time on the clock after we scored?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:20 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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Miles went for the TD leaving the FG as option B. Richt passed up option A and went directly for B.
When Bama missed their FG in OT. Miles didn't immediately set up for a FG.
It was a dumb decision on the part of Richt period
Exactly.
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Dumb thread...
If you thought so, then why did you basically restate its point verbatim?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:23 pm to Nuts4LSU
This is all that I have been arguing. I guess if the "Les took a shot with 7 seconds left" get repeated enough by uniformed fans, then it's true. Any one who watches that play with two working eyes can see that it was a good call, a less than desired "want" for the offense to get the play off, and then a lazy clock operator that made that play look so much more risky than it actually was. Anyone who says different has either not seen the play, or is just repeating what they've heard.
Now, let's not bring up Ole Miss '09.
Now, let's not bring up Ole Miss '09.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:23 pm to rangers911
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It was a 36 yard FG
We were on the 23 or 24 yard line. The goal post is 10 yards past the goal line. What team snaps the ball only 2 yards back on a field goal?
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with the best kicker in the SEC who was hitting that distance consistently
Regardless of how good your kicker is, a 40 yard field goal is never a sure thing. We could have had a bad snap, a block, or he could have missed.
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Miles made a stupid call but lucked out
I hope our opponents continue to think that way.
There's a reason Miles won and Richt lost, and it has nothing to do with luck.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:24 pm to Swoopin
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Okay, well he failed in instilling clock awareness on his offense.
You should just give up. More will come out of the woodworks.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:27 pm to plazadweller
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You should just give up. More will come out of the woodworks.
It's sugar cane fields, get it right!
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:28 pm to SECond2none™
I'm in the camp that Miles took option A and left B in his pocket.
I see Richt's move today as ignoring options A & B, and skipping straight to C. It was a pussy move.
I repeated someone else's 7 second thing mainly because I agree it allowed time to throw it out of bounds if need be. Had it gotten off with 23 seconds its the same thing. Les Miles' call wasn't questionable unless the worst (Flynn scrambling/fumble/sack/) happened.
And I appreciate the self-awareness of whoever the LSU fan was above that suggested Auburn gets the ref's favor while also acknowledging that 2-3 seconds were very questionably burned to Auburn's disadvantage after the play was over.
I see Richt's move today as ignoring options A & B, and skipping straight to C. It was a pussy move.
I repeated someone else's 7 second thing mainly because I agree it allowed time to throw it out of bounds if need be. Had it gotten off with 23 seconds its the same thing. Les Miles' call wasn't questionable unless the worst (Flynn scrambling/fumble/sack/) happened.
And I appreciate the self-awareness of whoever the LSU fan was above that suggested Auburn gets the ref's favor while also acknowledging that 2-3 seconds were very questionably burned to Auburn's disadvantage after the play was over.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:29 pm to Swoopin
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CMR had zero reason to kneel/center it on 2ND DOWN, leaving 2 plays on the field when all he needed was 3 yards.
I agree with your point, but I thought it was 2nd and 7 from the 22 when he took a knee to center the ball.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:30 pm to Swoopin
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I repeated someone else's 7 second thing mainly because I agree it allowed time to throw it out of bounds if need be. Had it gotten off with 23 seconds its the same thing. Les Miles' call wasn't questionable unless the worst (Flynn scrambling/fumble/sack/) happened.
I didn't take issue with your stance. Just the quote. 
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