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Regarding vacated wins, etc

Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:18 pm
IDGAF about money, autographs, etc.

My question is hypothetical: Let's imagine that aTm plays Manziel in the first 6 SEC games, and further let's hypothetically say they win all of those games. Then NCAA whams them with "vacated" wins nonsense.

What is their SEC record if they win the last 2 games? 2-0?

Are the "losses" vacated for other teams?

Could a team with "vacated" wins play in SECCG with a record of 2-0?
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:20 pm to
Would they have them vacate the wins while the season is in progress? I don't remember that ever happening, but I could be wrong.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:21 pm to
The team that loses to a team that vacates games still has that game counted as a loss.

No they would not play the SECCG with a 2-0 record.


ETA - forgot the loss part - losses aren't vacated - they're still counted as losses.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45143 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:22 pm to
Can't vacate losses
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15752 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:24 pm to
quote:


No they would not play the SECCG with a 2-0 record.


So they would have a higher winning % than all other teams?

Please explain how the selection of west rep would work if not winning % ?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

So they would have a higher winning % than all other teams?



Doesn't go by winning percentage..

Their SEC record would be 2-0, so the teams that have more than 2 SEC wins would be higher in the pecking order.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

So they would have a higher winning % than all other teams?

Please explain how the selection of west rep would work if not winning % ?


Does the SEC tiebreaker schedule not include NCAA sanctions and vacated wins? That seems like a dumb decision on their part given that Auburn is a member.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

so the teams that have more than 2 SEC wins would be higher in the pecking order.


So everyone but arkansas.
Posted by GumpMaster&Commander
Member since Aug 2013
2248 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:32 pm to
Look at the recruiting rankings. The NCAA ain't doing nothing these days so just shut up about it.
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

makersmark1


You should direct this question to Alabama fans since vacated wins are their area of expertise.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15752 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:52 pm to
This hypothetical situation will likely never happen, but if losses are not vacated the undefeated team with vacated wins would be at the top of the standings by winning %
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

but if losses are not vacated the undefeated team with vacated wins would be at the top of the standings by winning %


Wins are vacated, losses aren't. If aTm plays manziel for 6 games, then he is ruled ineligible, their conference record will be 0-0 after 6 games. If they win their last 2 SEC games without manziel, their record would 2-0. However, there are other teams in the west who would have accumulated 6,7, or even 8 SEC wins, and would win the division. It's not based on winning percentage, like multiple people have told you.

Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:10 pm to
I don't know why they ever decided vacated wins a good idea. A vacated win should be a loss and a win for the losing team. That's proper payment for cheating.
Posted by liferedeemed
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2007
381 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:12 pm to
Does anyone even get close to Alabama? I know they have at least 29 wins vacated.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

BradPitt


It must be frustrating being unable to converse with other adults when all you can do spew childish drivel.
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:31 pm to
When sanctions are leveled on a team, the conference also vacates any championship won. If it happened in season, they would exclude that team from being able to win the championship.

For the record, it's not true that losses never get vacated, but it would not be vacated in this case.
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

It must be frustrating being unable to converse with other adults when all you can do spew childish drivel.



You may be older and more mature than I, but I bet my penis is much more larger than your penis.
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