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Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:09 pm
After the ten/bama game there has been lots of talk about pro bama bias in officiating. I think there has been such bias for years. I have seen bama fans respond by comparing total penalty yards or penalties called on bama v opponents. This misses the point. The test is calls/non calls on “judgment” penalties like holding, pass interference and roughing the passer. Bama seems to always benefit from those judgment calls at critical points in the game and this will not show on total statistical comparison. I don’t know how to research this but I bet when these particular calls are considered, bama wins every time. This is the crux of the bama bias thing. Can anyone prove me wrong?
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:21 pm to bruintiger
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Can anyone prove me wrong?
I can prove you posted this on the wrong board
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:28 pm to bruintiger
Totally agree...
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:42 pm to bruintiger
Wrong hole
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:07 pm to bruintiger
This is absolutely correct. Well said
Posted on 10/25/23 at 5:09 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Based
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:01 am to bruintiger
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Bama seems to always benefit from those judgment calls at critical points in the game and this will not show on total statistical comparison.
All but... you know, the UT game last year, the extra second Aubie got to kick a field goal before the half in 2019, the three pass interference calls on the last drive against A&M in 2021, the 2013 Aubie game with illegal men downfield to tie the game, the punch in the head to roydell on a KEY 3rd down play this year.
I could go on but I'm not.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:34 am to bruintiger
Already coming up with excuses for November 5th. 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:59 am to bruintiger
The bias lies with you and other fans. You see it through your lens. That's where the actual bias is.
I see Bama's D line getting held all game long by every single opponent and it NEVER gets called. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills...that's because I focus on my team and see it through my perspective. Creating "bias".
This takes place with every fan base.
Tbh this notion that Bama gets timely penalties to save them is ludicrous. So you think refs are willing to call more flags on Bama no matter what but somehow they have the foresight to call the "right" penalties at the "right" time so that Bama wins? Seriously? Do you know how difficult that would be to pull off? Impossible.
If the refs really wanted Bama to win then we'd have 10 Nattys in a row. How do you explain the losses? How do you explain Bama getting 17 flags in Knoxville last year? If the refs wanted Bama to win they wouldn't have thrown the PI flag on the game sealing interception.
Bama has won because they are better than most teams on an annual basis. That's it. Period.
I see Bama's D line getting held all game long by every single opponent and it NEVER gets called. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills...that's because I focus on my team and see it through my perspective. Creating "bias".
This takes place with every fan base.
Tbh this notion that Bama gets timely penalties to save them is ludicrous. So you think refs are willing to call more flags on Bama no matter what but somehow they have the foresight to call the "right" penalties at the "right" time so that Bama wins? Seriously? Do you know how difficult that would be to pull off? Impossible.
If the refs really wanted Bama to win then we'd have 10 Nattys in a row. How do you explain the losses? How do you explain Bama getting 17 flags in Knoxville last year? If the refs wanted Bama to win they wouldn't have thrown the PI flag on the game sealing interception.
Bama has won because they are better than most teams on an annual basis. That's it. Period.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:06 am to bruintiger
You seem to be butthurt about it
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:12 am to EGO3x
During the Shula spell when Bama was very beatable, I remember thinking, I guess the refs can't help them anymore.
When teams are closely matched, one call here or there can determine the outcome. When that call most often favors the conference darling, it looks like bias. It may be but is more likely poor officiating.
I remember SWC officials. I've seen unabashed bias. SEC isn't that bad.
When teams are closely matched, one call here or there can determine the outcome. When that call most often favors the conference darling, it looks like bias. It may be but is more likely poor officiating.
I remember SWC officials. I've seen unabashed bias. SEC isn't that bad.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:24 am to TouchdownTony
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I could go on but I'm not.
I would add Curtis Brown in the back of the endzone vs Auburn in '95, which decided the game. There multiple roughing the passer missed in last year's UT game which would have benefitted UA.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:27 am to bruintiger
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I think there has been such bias for years.
Why have the 13 other SEC schools allowed this to continue for years?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:27 am to Red Boarman
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During the Shula spell when Bama was very beatable, I remember thinking, I guess the refs can't help them anymore.
When teams are closely matched, one call here or there can determine the outcome. When that call most often favors the conference darling, it looks like bias. It may be but is more likely poor officiating.
Pretty much. Because Bama has dominated for so long they are under a microscope because of fan bias.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:57 am to ETT2001
JJ Meadors TD catch to win for the hogs in 1995 would have been ruled incomplete in the SWC. Because it kinda was.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:01 am to Red Boarman
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Refs/bias
JJ Meadors TD catch to win for the hogs in 1995 would have been ruled incomplete in the SWC. Because it kinda was.
Correct, did not go Bama's way and decided the game. OP is picking and choosing to satisfy a narrative.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:04 am to bruintiger
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:26 am to bruintiger
Hopefully when the schedules come out for the 2025 season LSU won't have to worry about all the screw jobs they've received on a yearly basis anymore. 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:57 am to bruintiger
I can think of two THIS YEAR where Bama would have put points on the board at critical times, but were negated by so called “judgement” calls. Texas is an example where Burton caught a TD, but was negated by a holding call at a very critical time in the game. It was 13-6 at the time, Texas up. We would have gone in to the half 14-13 Bama.
TAMU, where we block a field goal and run it in for 6, but was called back on a so called crack back 30 yards behind the play. He didn’t even knock the player down. Dumb of our player to even do that, but it wasn’t a true blindside and was a “judgement” call. That game would have been in hand well before it was, if it were never called.
I can on and on but that’s two just this year. We’ve played what, 8 games?
It’s no bias, it’s perception. People see it how they see it.
TAMU, where we block a field goal and run it in for 6, but was called back on a so called crack back 30 yards behind the play. He didn’t even knock the player down. Dumb of our player to even do that, but it wasn’t a true blindside and was a “judgement” call. That game would have been in hand well before it was, if it were never called.
I can on and on but that’s two just this year. We’ve played what, 8 games?
It’s no bias, it’s perception. People see it how they see it.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:02 pm to bruintiger
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