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Really good breakdown of UT's O and the stress it puts on defenses...
Posted on 11/1/22 at 4:55 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 4:55 am
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:02 am to koreandawg
Very interesting analysis.
He's right. It's not complicated. You either have players that can match up with their WR's or you don't.
But the key for Tennessee is their excellent OL.
He talks about how quick the plays are but a any QB has to have time for a down field play to develop.
Bama got zero pressure on Hooker because their OL plays tight and Hooker is tall and able to throw accurately out of a comfortable pocket.
If we can't get pressure on Hooker and contain his improvised runs, it's going to be a long day for our defense.
He's right. It's not complicated. You either have players that can match up with their WR's or you don't.
But the key for Tennessee is their excellent OL.
He talks about how quick the plays are but a any QB has to have time for a down field play to develop.
Bama got zero pressure on Hooker because their OL plays tight and Hooker is tall and able to throw accurately out of a comfortable pocket.
If we can't get pressure on Hooker and contain his improvised runs, it's going to be a long day for our defense.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:10 am to GurleyGirl
Very good video.
I like how they showed Pitt attacking that offense. I've harped on this before, the modern mentality of defensive coordinators. They have all become sickeningly conservative. Pitt had more success than anyone this year, against this offense, by running single deep safety, man coverage, and bringing pressure.
So, of course, no SEC defense has done it since. Because none of them play to get the defense off the field. In the beginning, the 3-4 was supposed to give you more options to bring pressure from various angles to confuse the offense. Now ? Its just used as another LB to drop back in zone.
At this rate, I'd rather just bring back the 4-3.
I like how they showed Pitt attacking that offense. I've harped on this before, the modern mentality of defensive coordinators. They have all become sickeningly conservative. Pitt had more success than anyone this year, against this offense, by running single deep safety, man coverage, and bringing pressure.
So, of course, no SEC defense has done it since. Because none of them play to get the defense off the field. In the beginning, the 3-4 was supposed to give you more options to bring pressure from various angles to confuse the offense. Now ? Its just used as another LB to drop back in zone.
At this rate, I'd rather just bring back the 4-3.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:41 am to koreandawg
I'm tired of people over stating the simplicity of our offense. If it was that simple, everyone would be running it.
Herbstreit and Peyton Manning have both thoroughly broken down the various nuances and huge mental burden placed on the QB to be a coach on the field in constant quick situational football decisions because of how fast we move on offense and how reactive our play calling is according to what type defense is presented to us each play.
It requires a very cerebral and fast thinking quick release, mobile and accurate QB to be successful.
These kind of Patric Holmes esque QBs don't exactly grow on trees do they?
It's very difficult to find a guy with all of these qualities to run it and then you need at least one or two breakout wide receivers as well.
80 percent of hooker's success is the decisions that he is making pre snap and thise are rapid fast pace decisions.
Not to mention the fact you need to manage subbing the right guys in and out each play at that high tempo and slowing it down when necessary. If you listen to Hooker speak, it's like listening to a young head coach speak. If he fails in the NFL i could 100 percent see coaching in his future.
Heupel has said numerous times that Hooker is essentially a coach as a player in the locker room and on the field and he is what got all the other players to buy into Heupel's philosophy and system. This system can not be run by a simple hack tyoe of QB.
Nothing against Milton, but i don't think he has it upstairs to duplicate Hooker's success. Our giga recruit Nico certainly does though.
Herbstreit and Peyton Manning have both thoroughly broken down the various nuances and huge mental burden placed on the QB to be a coach on the field in constant quick situational football decisions because of how fast we move on offense and how reactive our play calling is according to what type defense is presented to us each play.
It requires a very cerebral and fast thinking quick release, mobile and accurate QB to be successful.
These kind of Patric Holmes esque QBs don't exactly grow on trees do they?
It's very difficult to find a guy with all of these qualities to run it and then you need at least one or two breakout wide receivers as well.
80 percent of hooker's success is the decisions that he is making pre snap and thise are rapid fast pace decisions.
Not to mention the fact you need to manage subbing the right guys in and out each play at that high tempo and slowing it down when necessary. If you listen to Hooker speak, it's like listening to a young head coach speak. If he fails in the NFL i could 100 percent see coaching in his future.
Heupel has said numerous times that Hooker is essentially a coach as a player in the locker room and on the field and he is what got all the other players to buy into Heupel's philosophy and system. This system can not be run by a simple hack tyoe of QB.
Nothing against Milton, but i don't think he has it upstairs to duplicate Hooker's success. Our giga recruit Nico certainly does though.
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:43 am to ScoggDog
If we played Pitt right now ee would beat them like we beat Kentucky. We have vastly improved since the Pitt game. That was only our second game of the year.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:50 am to General4Heisman
Good breakdown, and GA definitely has all of the necessary attributes in the secondary to make it difficult on any receiver. That, and a whole different animal up front with excellent athletes.
It will be entertaining. Both can score and put up yards. The difference is that one team has an actual defense.
It will be entertaining. Both can score and put up yards. The difference is that one team has an actual defense.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:56 am to CoachDon
You can bash our defense because of it's overall passing D numbers, but we are ranked number 22 in scoring defense in the nation and do in fact have elite dline play, run defense and a great pass rush. Plus most of our secondary was injured majority of the year...one was out for beating up a home invader and he is our leader on the field back there. We got Hadden back as well who is a stud along with Slaughter our interception leader who played thd game of his life against Kentucky.
For comparison, 2019 LSU was ranked #28 scoring defense, so we are six spots ahead of them. Pur secondary played lights oit against Kentucky which suggests we are rapidly improving now that we are healthy again.
For comparison, 2019 LSU was ranked #28 scoring defense, so we are six spots ahead of them. Pur secondary played lights oit against Kentucky which suggests we are rapidly improving now that we are healthy again.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:56 am to koreandawg
Scanned through it, and it is a nice breakdown.
Logically you also have to assume that the more an offense puts on tape, the more defensive coordinators are able to scheme against it.
There were clearly formations and concepts used against Alabama that they hadn't prepared for, which is a direct compliment to UT's staff. Hats off to what they've done thus far.
Now that Kirby and others have seen it, will it be as effective? Is UT doing this with superior athletes, or have they been taking advantage of something unexpected thus far? Have they put it all on the table at this point, or do they have something left when other defenses adjust accordingly?
Should be interesting to watch down the final stretch.
Logically you also have to assume that the more an offense puts on tape, the more defensive coordinators are able to scheme against it.
There were clearly formations and concepts used against Alabama that they hadn't prepared for, which is a direct compliment to UT's staff. Hats off to what they've done thus far.
Now that Kirby and others have seen it, will it be as effective? Is UT doing this with superior athletes, or have they been taking advantage of something unexpected thus far? Have they put it all on the table at this point, or do they have something left when other defenses adjust accordingly?
Should be interesting to watch down the final stretch.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 7:59 am to General4Heisman
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These kind of Patric Holmes esque QBs don't exactly grow on trees do they?
Is this Larry Holmes' brother? Where did he play QB?
BTW, your QB has thrown the ball on the run outside the pocket twice this year. One was a fourth down play vs. Bama where he had to.
Other wise he runs it. He's not looking to throw when he's scrambling outside the pocket.
He's no Patric Holmes, nor Jody Morrow of the Bengals.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:00 am to GurleyGirl
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If we can't get pressure on Hooker and contain his improvised runs, it's going to be a long day for our defense.
oh, they'll score points, but judging by the only game I watched them, their defense is horrible. Alabama scored 49 pts and moved the ball at will, in spite of record setting penatlies and the crooked refs. Since this game is in Athens they are very unlikely to get that. I'm pretty sure UGA will score more pts than they do because the UGA defense is better than Alabama's this year.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 8:03 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:09 am to paperwasp
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There were clearly formations and concepts used against Alabama that they hadn't prepared for.....Now that Kirby and others have seen it, will it be as effective?
You think Heupel is going to just run the same stuff he ran before?
He has something especially tailored for Georgia. Even Kirby said it yesterday.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:09 am to BLG
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Alabama scored 49 pts
Wrong. Alabama's O scored 42 points. You can't lay the scoop and score at the feet of UT's D.
Tennessee's O scored 52.
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 8:13 am
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:15 am to LunaFreak
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You think Heupel is going to just run the same stuff he ran before?
Maybe, maybe not.
How much more can you install during a game week?
Again, I'm not saying it doesn't work, but how many times have we seen offenses in this conference that explode until someone adjusts to counteract it? It's what good coaches and staffs do.
Remember when Gus' HUNH was unstoppable? Or Leach's AR?
Maybe it takes an off-season to figure out. Maybe it's this week. Who knows?
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:27 am to LunaFreak
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Tennessee's O scored 52
only with the aid of a probably crooked or biased official that called bogus interference after McKinstry was on about the 40 yard line after the interception. That would have sealed the game. You won't get that in Athens.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:31 am to General4Heisman
quote:.... You don't play for 10RC
our offense
quote:... Who???? Is he related to Sherlock, Larry, Santonio, Katie
Patric Holmes esque
quote:.... Just stop it & enjoy the current success
it's like listening to a young head coach speak
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:37 am to koreandawg
Hooker is really good at seeing oops in the defense. He has the experience to see pre snap where the potential coverage issue could be so when the oops moment happens he doesn’t miss many. That puts a lot of stress on a defense to play perfect. If the oops moment happens early, defenses can get tentative which just makes it worse for a few min. Then they calm back down til it happens again.
Uga will be the best defense we have faced. I have no clue what to expect but for the first time in nearly two decades I’m hopeful about the direction of the program. A loss doesn’t change that but I would love to win.
Uga will be the best defense we have faced. I have no clue what to expect but for the first time in nearly two decades I’m hopeful about the direction of the program. A loss doesn’t change that but I would love to win.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:40 am to koreandawg
Here's how you defend Hyatt.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:50 am to General4Heisman
It really is a simple system though. It’s 10 plays with minimal nomenclature that is built to keep the defense from subbing/adjusting. The DLine in football is built around a rotation and if they can’t rotate they get used up and confused. That forces the LBs and DBs to make decisions they are not coached to make, creating more confusion.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:11 am to Smokeyone
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built to keep the defense from subbing
That aspect really is pretty ingenious.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:18 am to paperwasp
Just tell your dlinemen to have their helmets fall off every so often. Forced substitutions. 
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