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REAL "Elephant in the Room" Re: CFP Committe (Why 6 teams minimum has to happen)
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:52 am
Notre Dame will be the biggest thorn in the side of the committee once they are good again because an undefeated or 1 loss ND will leave out TWO conference champs with the current format!
We have already seen how a "Blue Blood" will never be left out if they are in the mix. 6 teams would be a perfect fit with all 5 conference champs guaranteed in plus one at large spot. Just give the top 2 teams bye weeks. Makes too much sense.
With the current format, one conference champ is guaranteed to be left out every single year which makes absolutely no sense....
We have already seen how a "Blue Blood" will never be left out if they are in the mix. 6 teams would be a perfect fit with all 5 conference champs guaranteed in plus one at large spot. Just give the top 2 teams bye weeks. Makes too much sense.
With the current format, one conference champ is guaranteed to be left out every single year which makes absolutely no sense....
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:53 am to Tiger1975
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Notre Dame will be the biggest thorn in the side of the committee once they are good again
And therein lies the rub.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:53 am to Tiger1975
Nobody loves a good conspiracy theory like an LSU fan
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:54 am to Tiger1975
The real issue isn't that they took OSU over TCU or Baylor. It's that they took the easy way out and put OSU in so they didn't have to deal with the TCU and Baylor head to head issue.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:55 am to Tiger1975
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Just give the top 2 teams bye weeks.
Given the likelihood on any given Saturday that a player can be injured resulting in being out for at least a week, this would be unfair to teams 3-6. Even if players just get banged up and aren't at 100% the following week.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:02 am to Tiger1975
I'd rather go to 8 than 6, but I think 4 is perfect
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:04 am to Tiger1975
Pre-1998 teams just went to whatever bowl game their conference was tied into and the polls decided the champion. Other major bowl game winners complained.
With the BCS, the top 2 played for the title. #3 complained.
Now with a 4 team playoff, team #5 complains.
If you move it to 6 teams, #7 will complain. Just like with an 8 teamer, #9 will complain.
Someone is ALWAYS going to complain by just barely missing the cut. It's how life works.
With the BCS, the top 2 played for the title. #3 complained.
Now with a 4 team playoff, team #5 complains.
If you move it to 6 teams, #7 will complain. Just like with an 8 teamer, #9 will complain.
Someone is ALWAYS going to complain by just barely missing the cut. It's how life works.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:07 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Nobody loves a good conspiracy theory like an LSU fan
What conspiracy theory?
The blue bloods are going to get every benefit of the doubt.
See Ohio State jumping from 6 to 4.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:08 am to skirpnasty
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The real issue isn't that they took OSU over TCU or Baylor. It's that they took the easy way out and put OSU in so they didn't have to deal with the TCU and Baylor head to head issue.
From what people are saying, OSU had a better SOS and had a better resume.
I kind of agree, as OSU had 3 wins over top 25 teams, 2 away and 1 neutral site
TCU had 2 over top 25, both at home
Baylor had 2 over top 25, both at home (both top 10 when played)
So I don't think that was the issue yesterday
I think the issue is going forward there is a legitimate chance that you have 5 conference champs with 1 loss (here we had 6), and you have to leave someone who may well be the best team in the country out
How is that fine (this coming from a fan of the team who got that 4 spot)
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:10 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Nobody loves a good conspiracy theory like an LSU fan
^this
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:11 am to Mizz-SEC
There really is no good way to do this. You can't just keep adding extra games. These are college kids.
As of now, the two teams in the title game will have played 15 games. That's too many already. With your proposal it's possible for a team to play 16. That's an NFL season.
I really wish they would have never went to a playoff, but with everything now it's all about the money.
As of now, the two teams in the title game will have played 15 games. That's too many already. With your proposal it's possible for a team to play 16. That's an NFL season.
I really wish they would have never went to a playoff, but with everything now it's all about the money.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:15 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Nobody loves a good conspiracy theory like an LSU fan
If it was Texas or Oklahoma rather than Baylor you think OSU still jumps them in this situation?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:15 am to Tiger1975
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(Why 6 teams minimum has to happen)
Does not have to happen at all...
Your post just shows you do not understand the reasons behind the CFP in the first place.
# 1 Allow the B1G and PAC seats at the table and protect the Rose Bowl brand
For years they have pushed the value of the Rose Bowl but since the SEC and the B12 moved to 12 teams and had CCG's it pushed back the value of the Rose Bowl as no longer providing MNC's since only the B1G and PAC played in it.
# 2 Allow the BIG a seat back into the MNC title discussion
With only the Bucknuts getting in in the past decade or so and then getting humiliated by the SEC the B1G (with lots of living alumni and lots of eyeballs for advertisers) was getting left in the dust. If you are trying to sell the BTN across the USA to advertisers and no team is on the national radar it gets hard to sell the ad space.
# 3 Validate the dollars spent by the media companies for the rights fees they pay to broadcast CCG's
If media companies are shelling out 20 - 40 million per year to broadcast each CCG they want a reason folks should tune in and make the advertisers happy. If the B12 or Notre Dame don't play in such a game then folks will tune out and that will cost somebody some money. Advertisers are not happy when folks don't watch.
# 4 The CCG's are intended to become the defacto "1st round" of the playoff
This way you already have a built in 8 team playoff that excludes Gang of 5 schools so the Power 5 schools don't have to split the money pie with them. It is pretty obvious when you look at it yet people still refuse to accept it. The B12 refused to believe it and now they have seen first hand that their way of thinking will not fly with so much money on the line. Long term Notre Dame will probably join the ACC as they already have 5 yearly contractual games and they are ACC members for all their other sports. With the current setup you have 4 CCG's for 4 playoff spots and 2 alternates (Notre Dame and B12 school) if a favorite or 2 loses their CCG.
It is the perfect setup and should be the long term resolution until the B12 adds 2 more schools OR they dissolve.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:23 am to Tiger1975
Isn't it a little early for LSU fans to melt about Notre Dame?
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:23 am to Tiger1975
B12 was punished for not having a conference championship game. ND should be punished for not being in a conference period.
Make them join the B10/ACC. Problem solved.
Make them join the B10/ACC. Problem solved.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:31 am to GIbson05
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B12 was punished for not having a conference championship game.
^this needs to stop being said. Even if they had had one this year, a 1 loss conference champ would have been left out.
Must have at least a 6 team playoff.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:37 am to Cheese Grits
It took the "Mulligan Bowl" to get Jim Delaney and his PAC 12 counterpart to move toward a playoff...
It's going to take two teams from the same conference and Notre Dame getting in to go to 8...
and my advice to the Big 12, get BYU and a 12th team ASAP!!!
It's going to take two teams from the same conference and Notre Dame getting in to go to 8...
and my advice to the Big 12, get BYU and a 12th team ASAP!!!
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:39 am to beardkp
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Even if they had had one this year, a 1 loss conference champ would have been left out.
No they wouldnt have. If TCU was #3 going into championship weekend. And played another ranked team and won the Championship they would have been in and they B10 would be on the outside looking in.
The B12 as a conference is better then the B10 this year.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:40 am to vl100butch
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and my advice to the Big 12, get BYU and a 12th team ASAP!!!
BYU and Boise State
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:48 am to beardkp
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beardkp
REAL "Elephant in the Room" Re: CFP Committe (Why 6 teams minimum has to happen)
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B12 was punished for not having a conference championship game.
^this needs to stop being said. Even if they had had one this year, a 1 loss conference champ would have been left out.
The other guy got it partly right.
The Big 12 was punished because...
1. they only have 10 teams and play all the other teams, which...
2. means that Baylor/TCU are guaranteed to get to play all three of the shitty teams in the conference...
3. and that they only get 3 OOC games...
4. which Baylor scheduled against two more shitty teams and an FCS team...
5. and therefore was unable to play in a conference championship game.
When you take it in its totality, the 9 game schedule combined with the week OOC schedule and no championship game absolutely killed them.
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