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Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:57 pm to Wildcat
Posted on 11/25/09 at 1:57 pm to Wildcat
Steve Spurrier didn't forget how to coach. Has anyone done as well as him at USC. We all know what he can do at a school with true resources. He should be at least #3 if not higher. Nutt is not a good coach. I don't get people's reasoning.
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Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:01 pm to lsutiger2486
quote:Who cares what Spurrier has done in the past, he sucks now. USC has not progressed since the Holtz era. They are the same. Come out with a good record, then fold up at seasons end. 3-4 years in a row this has happened = sign of a bad coach. Plus in interviews and sideline cameras, it looks like he couldnt care less.
Steve Spurrier didn't forget how to coach. Has anyone done as well as him at USC. We all know what he can do at a school with true resources. He should be at least #3 if not higher.
Nutt is not a good coach. I don't get people's reasoning.
Agreed on Nutt. When Nutt gets his own players in there, it will get bad for him
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:02 pm to lsutiger2486
Wow, some of you guys are giving more credit to Richt than I thought. Id' personally have him in the bottom 2-3 spots. Every problem we seem to have is a reflection on coaching. No discipline, turnovers, lack of enthusiasm...
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:02 pm to lsutiger2486
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Steve Spurrier didn't forget how to coach. Has anyone done as well as him at USC. We all know what he can do at a school with true resources. He should be at least #3 if not higher.
Nutt is not a good coach. I don't get people's reasoning.
He hasnt even done what Holtz did there
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:11 pm to tigerbait2
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He hasnt even done what Holtz did there
Not to hate, but Holtz and Spurrier are HOF type coaches. Comparing two HOF coaches against each other does not support the idea they are shitty coaches.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:12 pm to tigerbait2
Objectively I don't see how anyone can put Saban above Urban. In short for Meyer:
-A career 94-17 record, an 81.9% winning percentage which is the highest of any active coach in all of college football. He is 5-1 all time in Bowls and three of the 5 bowl games were BCS Bowls. He has coached two heisman trophy winning quarterbacks. During his last 7 seasons, his teams won their conference 5 of those 7 seasons. He won the Mountain West conf both years and has won the SEC 2 of 4 seasons (and playing for his third in two weeks). He has won two national championships in the last three seasons. Currently his team in 11-0 and set up to play in their third national title game in 4 years.
Saban:
-in 14 years of coaching college football, he has won a grand total of 2 conference championships and one split NC (Where the media voted USC #1). His college record is 121-50 -1 (about 70.7% winning percentage), he has a 3-6 bowl record (with only 3 career "big 4 bowl" appearances). In his 5 years at Michigan State, he finished the Big ten 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 2nd in order, with no conference title.
yes, Saban is bringing Alabama to relevance, but he isn't better than Urban, and it isn't even close.
-A career 94-17 record, an 81.9% winning percentage which is the highest of any active coach in all of college football. He is 5-1 all time in Bowls and three of the 5 bowl games were BCS Bowls. He has coached two heisman trophy winning quarterbacks. During his last 7 seasons, his teams won their conference 5 of those 7 seasons. He won the Mountain West conf both years and has won the SEC 2 of 4 seasons (and playing for his third in two weeks). He has won two national championships in the last three seasons. Currently his team in 11-0 and set up to play in their third national title game in 4 years.
Saban:
-in 14 years of coaching college football, he has won a grand total of 2 conference championships and one split NC (Where the media voted USC #1). His college record is 121-50 -1 (about 70.7% winning percentage), he has a 3-6 bowl record (with only 3 career "big 4 bowl" appearances). In his 5 years at Michigan State, he finished the Big ten 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 2nd in order, with no conference title.
yes, Saban is bringing Alabama to relevance, but he isn't better than Urban, and it isn't even close.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:13 pm to lsutiger2486
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Not to hate, but Holtz and Spurrier are HOF type coaches. Comparing two HOF coaches against each other does not support the idea they are shitty coaches.
1) They are HOF coaches bc of what they did at other schools
2) THis is a current ranking (as of 11-25-09) = how are they doing this year.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:15 pm to austingator
I think alot of you have Petrino too low.
Look what he did at Louisville, he put Brohm on the map and that team. Look where Brohm is and that team? No where to be seen.
He now has Arky doing some nice things and he is just going to make that team better every year.
He wasn't too good in the NFL but he is one great college coach.
Look what he did at Louisville, he put Brohm on the map and that team. Look where Brohm is and that team? No where to be seen.
He now has Arky doing some nice things and he is just going to make that team better every year.
He wasn't too good in the NFL but he is one great college coach.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:17 pm to dex
A lot of people are ranking coaches based on record and ignoring other factors.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:17 pm to GoHoGsGo06
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THis is a current ranking (as of 11-25-09) = how are they doing this year.
I am just wondering why people think he wouldn't be dominant with better resources when he has already proved it. It isn't an even playing field and we are guessing he could do better at an elite school. We actually know he can.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:19 pm to lsutiger2486
quote:Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is on the level playing field now? That he amassed all his glory back at Florida by having the best athletes and coaches on his teams?
I am just wondering why people think he wouldn't be dominant with better resources when he has already proved it. It isn't an even playing field and we are guessing he could do better at an elite school. We actually know he can.
You want to measure how good a coach really is, you put him at a medicore school and see what he can do. So far, nada
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:27 pm to GoHoGsGo06
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You want to measure how good a coach really is, you put him at a medicore school and see what he can do. So far, nada
Did you know that Spurrier coached at Duke before being picked to coach UF?
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:30 pm to lsutiger2486
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Did you know that Spurrier coached at Duke before being picked to coach UF?
Yes, he coached there for a whopping 3 years.
Tell me this, who has more talent "usually", Duke or South Carolina?
If the answer is USC, then why doesnt he have the same success he had at Duke with lesser players?
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:34 pm to austingator
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Saban is bringing Alabama to relevance, but he isn't better than Urban, and it isn't even close
One game separates them in the last two years. Tebow had to win that one game late in the 4th quarter, not Urban's coaching. It's alot closer than you'd like to think.
eta - They're both great coaches, and if both stay at the schools they're at now. There will be plenty of head to head matchups in the years to come.
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:35 pm to GoHoGsGo06
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If the answer is USC, then why doesnt he have the same success he had at Duke with lesser players?
The SEC is a better conference than the ACC.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:45 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
Rank SEC Coaches as of 11-25-09
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Saban is bringing Alabama to relevance, but he isn't better than Urban, and it isn't even close
One game separates them in the last two years. Tebow had to win that one game late in the 4th quarter, not Urban's coaching. It's alot closer than you'd like to think.
eta - They're both great coaches, and if both stay at the schools they're at now. There will be plenty of head to head matchups in the years to come.
I love the way you ignore the facts I posted, and just focus on one game LOL.
Saban is good, but there is no question that Urban is better. Just facts.
Yes, I think Urban, and Saban will meet in Atlanta a lot, if they stay put.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:47 pm to Wildcat
les is last
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:48 pm to austingator
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I love the way you ignore the facts I posted, and just focus on one game LOL.
Saban is good, but there is no question that Urban is better. Just facts.
Yes, I think Urban, and Saban will meet in Atlanta a lot, if they stay put.
I'm not ignoring. I'd counter that the Big 10 is harder to win in than the conference Utah is in overall. I also bring up the past 2 years, because that is a better judge of where they both are now as coaches. Overall history, Urban has a better record no doubt. At this point in time, they're pretty damn close.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:51 pm to Alahunter
Meyer Wins With Utah
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Saban Loses To Utah!
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Saban Loses To Utah!
Posted on 11/25/09 at 2:51 pm to lsutiger2486
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Nutt is not a good coach. I don't get people's reasoning.
He's winning 9 games a year with 7 win talent.
That'd be my guess at least.
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