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Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:59 pm
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:59 pm
I definitely agree with you all it's time for a change when resources,talents and expectations are not met and a decline is very clear. I think most here are knowledgeable fans,but don't mind poking fun at LSU.

Most SEC fans like Les Miles Goofy but straightforward personality. Jimbo would make an excellent hire also.

Question 1. How was all this stuff leaked about Les retiring in 2016 and potential firing, and why at this point of the season the AD and boosters allow the speculation to surround the program?

Question 2. Jimbo being you guys prime target, Wouldn't it been best for LSU for it to be a closed door conversations. Mr.Sexton is involved so he could burn you guys and get Jimbo a nice extension from FSU.


Final Question. What are you guys 2nd and 3rd options if preferred Candidates do not take the job?
Posted by smith5
Dallas, TX
Member since Jun 2015
118 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:01 pm to
re Question 1: I think the silence from the AD means that he is trying to lock down a future coach before going public on CLM.

Other questions: who knows.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Question 1. How was all this stuff leaked about Les retiring in 2016 and potential firing, and why at this point of the season the AD and boosters allow the speculation to surround the program?


It's been boiling over ever since 1/9/12. Les hasn't been able to make a change in his offensive gameplan for four years now with multiple starters in the NFL coming through LSU. The expectations coupled with the way in which we lost these past three have made all the fans stand up in unison to say that we need a new voice or we are never winning even 8 games again.

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Question 2. Jimbo being you guys prime target, Wouldn't it been best for LSU for it to be a closed door conversations. Mr.Sexton is involved so he could burn you guys and get Jimbo a nice extension from FSU.


LSU has kept a closed door on the talks. It's ESPN and talking heads that have got their "sources" and have been trying to get a lead on a story. Alleva keeps saying no choice will be made til after the season.

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Final Question. What are you guys 2nd and 3rd options if preferred Candidates do not take the job?


Tom Herman is my first choice. Jimbo is my second choice. Mullen is my third choice. I think all of them are HUGE upgrades over Miles. If you can't get any one of those, this will be a monumental frick up of epic proportions. Although, tRant will make fun of anyone we hire
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:14 pm to
Isn't Herman going to USCe?
And will Mullen have our players stomping on opponents??
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
916 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:14 pm to
No way they let Miles go without a replacement already committed (Jimbo or maybe a Shawn Payton type). They DO NOT want to end up like Texas who canned Brown thinking they were getting a Ferrari, but ended up with a '97 Celica.........
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66368 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:17 pm to
Texas Stayed with Brown too long.

Charlie Strong was a pretty good hire, Brown drove that program into the ground before he left.
Posted by brlsu1988
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jul 2011
1204 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:23 pm to
1) For the past couple seasons the fire Les crowd has been loud after the 1/9/12 debacle, but most fans still stood by Les and never thought he would be fired because his record was very good and they liked the guy. After the loss to Bama this year making it five in a row and the blowout loss to Arkansas you started to hear from reporters and insiders saying boostesr are tired of Les and he is gone. No big deal because that usually happens after a couple of bad loses but no one inside ie: the AD came out and said anything. To me I think it has been on purpose, Alleva has remained quiet meaning all the chatter is true and Alleva has decided Les is gone after the season.

2) I think closed door conversations have and are still happening. With who the frick knows.

Edit: I am not a insider. Just IMO.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Meat Newtons
Bon Secour Al
Member since Nov 2015
426 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:24 pm to
They are gonna dream of that Escalade... But end up having to be satisfyed with that 4- door Kia sedan...
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63196 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

It's been boiling over ever since 1/9/12. Les hasn't been able to make a change in his offensive gameplan for four years now with multiple starters in the NFL coming through LSU. The expectations coupled with the way in which we lost these past three have made all the fans stand up in unison to say that we need a new voice or we are never winning even 8 games again.



This goes back much further than 1/9/12.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21316 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

This goes back much further than 1/9/12.


Absolutely...and this is the point that most people seem to miss. With the exception of Mett in 2013, LSU's offense since 2008 (especially the passing game) has been mind numbingly one dimensional. That's all well and good if it works but if it doesn't, Les has proven repeatedly that he has no Plan B. Also, you have the constant issues of horrible clock management, wasted TOs and at times, looking like a Chinese Fire Drill when the game is on the line. (Tennessee 2010, anyone?)

I would love nothing more than to see LSU succeed under Les. He's a quality individual and he's been a fantastic representative for LSU. The fact remains that often times, the Tigers do things (especially late in the season) that high school teams correct after their first couple of games.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:49 pm to
Despite some these Rantards' trolling, whether they don't want to admit it they hold LSU in high regard. Every SEC program had a rough patch in the last 20 years. Hopefully you guys get the coach you want....see you next November in Baton Rouge to decide the West.
Posted by BGSB
Opelousas
Member since Jan 2010
2257 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Absolutely...and this is the point that most people seem to miss. With the exception of Mett in 2013, LSU's offense since 2008 (especially the passing game) has been mind numbingly one dimensional. That's all well and good if it works but if it doesn't, Les has proven repeatedly that he has no Plan B. Also, you have the constant issues of horrible clock management, wasted TOs and at times, looking like a Chinese Fire Drill when the game is on the line. (Tennessee 2010, anyone?)

I would love nothing more than to see LSU succeed under Les. He's a quality individual and he's been a fantastic representative for LSU. The fact remains that often times, the Tigers do things (especially late in the season) that high school teams correct after their first couple of games.




All makes sense but, he deserves 1 more season, he has earned it. To fire him now will likely set us back in recruiting, and at best, it's a dangerous gamble. Just my opinion, but I think the damage is done now anyway, might as well do it.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
1558 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:54 pm to
Yes, miles should have gotten another year. Next year he would probably have had the most returning players he's ever had. I think we've crossed the Rubicon now though. If you keep him, which quality coaching changes could you make? No one worth a damn would want to be a part of that. It's why we got stuck with Steele and the BBQ champion Bradley Dale Peveto.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by BGSB
Opelousas
Member since Jan 2010
2257 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

If you keep him, which quality coaching changes could you make? No one worth a damn would want to be a part of that.



Yeah, it's over
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32848 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

They are gonna dream of that Escalade...


Bama certainly knows about Escalades
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9745 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

which quality coaching changes could you make? No one worth a damn would want to be a part of that. I


Well, hear this out. LSu has a pretty talented but young team on offense. A new OC could make a huge name for himself by coming in and making the necessary improvements. Turn it around at LSU and suddenly you're in very high regards, your future would explode upward and it would lead to a Head Coaching job. These guys are up for the challenge, cocky egos with a huge upside and limited downside. Turn it around and you're the man, don't , Les gets canned and it is still blamed on Les. The risk is minimal with a potential huge reward.

Les has shown he can turn it around, he's done it once before at LSU.
Posted by crobe18
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2011
518 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

A new OC


No thanks. Les has fired and hired a lot of OCs throughout his tenure. Offense has mostly been stagnant no matter who he has brought in. He will never change his philosophy, so it doesn't matter is another would be brought in.
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