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re: Question regarding Kentucky/Bama upset possibility

Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:58 am to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41546 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:58 am to
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A) Bama doesn't lose to Kentucky, we aren't LSU. B) no. too many teams brah. And Kentucky.


LSU doesn't always lose to Kentucky, but when we do, we still beat Bama.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:23 am to
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As long as your team has the title of sec champ? Sure. You and I know it's laughable to have a national champ that wasn't even the champ of its own division, let alone conf.


Doesn't matter, got crystal.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75392 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:28 am to
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do you think a one loss Bama gets in over another one loss team like Stanford or Oregon?


absolutely not...especially if that loss were to UK.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:37 am to
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If Bama loses to Kentucky in a close, surprising way but runs the table the rest of the way and wins the SEC, do you think a one loss Bama gets in over another one loss team like Stanford or Oregon?


Since we're getting hypothetical up in here, Kentucky *could* win out and, at 8-4, be considered a solid SEC team. In that case the Alabama loss would be shocking but not a world breaker.

but if you are asking what would happen if Kentucky is the bad we all assume they are, then Alabama would absolutely deserve to be passed over for a 1 loss Pac12 champ. "our loss is better" was the argument the tide had in 2011, what would the argument be now?
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21209 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:41 am to
If LSU can lose to Kentucky AND Arkansas and still make the NC game Bama will still make it.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:47 am to
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If LSU can lose to Kentucky AND Arkansas and still make the NC game Bama will still make it.


I don't think they can given LSU already has a loss and doesn't play Kentucky.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:57 am to
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but if you are asking what would happen if Kentucky is the bad we all assume they are, then Alabama would absolutely deserve to be passed over for a 1 loss Pac12 champ. "our loss is better" was the argument the tide had in 2011, what would the argument be now?



This is the thought behind the thread. If the argument wouldn't work for Bama in 2013, then it shouldn't work for OSU in 2011.

I don't think OSU fans actually think they were one of the 2 best teams in the country in 2011 (I mean they don't think it now with the benefit of retrospection. I'm sure they thought they were one of two best at the time).

Basically, it is an old, tired argument that some (read: LSU fans) cling to in any thread that mentions 2011, Bama championships, top programs, etc.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:24 am to
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Doesn't matter, got crystal.


That no one respects. You weren't the best team in your division. Let alone conference.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21209 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:38 am to
My statement was referring to past occurances.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:39 am to
I didn't even know who bama was playing this weekend.
Posted by DayBowBow
Member since Jun 2011
5030 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:45 am to
Is this actually a discussion? I'm hopeful for our team, but I'm hoping we split the MSU/UT/VU/Mizzou games.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:17 am to
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That no one respects. You weren't the best team in your division. Let alone conference.

21-0. Owned. DWI.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18337 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:23 am to
Yes. Bama would get in.

Just like LSU in 2007 or Alabama in 2011.

If Alabama loses to Kentucky and goes on to beat LSU and Auburn and then wins the SECCG against Georgia or Florida or South Carolina, they will most definitely have the best resume.

For one, Virginia Tech will finish with 3 losses, so they should be a top 20 team. A&M will probably have 2 or 3 losses or maybe even one loss and with the hype of Manziel, they will be top 15. Auburn has greatly improved and could easily be a top 25 team come the Iron Bowl. LSU will be a top 15 team. The SECCG will also feature a top ten matchup.

No other team in the country with one loss will be able to make the argument.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:25 am to
If Bama loses to UK, that will not be their only loss. But, to answer your question...hell no.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:49 am to
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No way. If Alabama is upset by Kentucky they will not make up enough ground by seasons end. Would be a terrible loss, similar to Okie State losing to ISU in 2011. Even if they won the SEC they probably wouldn't be ranked higher than 4th in the final poll.



What he said.

quote:

If bama loses to Kentucky , lsu is gonna shite in Bama's mouth and make them ask for more. Fact.


And to be completely honest, what he said too.

Nobody outside of LSU and UGA have the chance to make it to the title game with a loss this year and even their chances aren't too good. There are simply too many undefeated teams with too few schedule challenges this year.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32385 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:53 am to
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LSU.



Not even an LSU thread and lookie who mentions us


LSU musta really hurt your feelings..
Posted by natchampsagain
Member since Sep 2013
36 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:58 am to
hee hee hee hee hee hee!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by EricFromSpringfield
Springfield, TN
Member since Jul 2011
63 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:19 am to
Better chance Saban runs to Austin 10 seconds after shaking Stoops' hand.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 12:05 pm to
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That no one respects. You weren't the best team in your division. Let alone conference.


This yours?

Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 10/10/13 at 12:07 pm to
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If bama loses to Kentucky , lsu is gonna shite in Bama's mouth and make them ask for more. Fact.


For once I agree with an LSU fan. BUT Bama won't lose to Kentucky and will go on to beat LSU, resulting in more schedule threads on SECr
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