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Question re. Ole Miss/Rebel Rags lawsuit

Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:12 pm
Am I off base here or is this just going to piss off the NCAA even more so? Why would anyone ever talk or cooperate with the NCAA if law suits and such may be headed your way?
Posted by Midnight Delight
Member since Jun 2017
119 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:14 pm to
Ole miss frickED burn it down
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:15 pm to
If the NCAA thinks OM is directly or indirectly intimidating or harassing a material witness, you better believe it will piss them off.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:19 pm to
They don't care anymore...
Posted by BroomfieldReb
Broomfield Colorado
Member since Jul 2015
612 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:22 pm to
Ole Miss isn't filing the suit, it's Rebel rags. If they are disassociated with Ole Miss due to the NCAA, they are out of business. The information that the two kids are saying about them can be proven false.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:25 pm to
Im sure it does. It will hurt their chances at using immunity in the future. I guess there isn't anything to fear if you tell the truth though.

The thing it seems you all misconstrue is that OM is suing these kids. This is not OM's decision. I doubt OM is in favor of this.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

The information that the two kids are saying about them can be proven false.



Not trying to flame, just curious on how that is possible. My understanding of the connection to Rebel Rags is they said they got free stuff from there. What evidence will there be that they did not?
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Not trying to flame, just curious on how that is possible. My understanding of the connection to Rebel Rags is they said they got free stuff from there. What evidence will there be that they did not?

Well for one, after Leo changed his story 2 times, he finally said that they took off the remote tags and let him walk out of the store with the clothes. Rebel Rags does not have remote tags on their clothes. Their are also video cameras and I would assume receipts kept at the store.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3803 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:35 pm to
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What evidence will there be that they did not?


None of the other recruits saw anything like that happen that were there, none of the items sold that were supposedly rang up using a gift card do not show, the employee that was named doesn't exist, the claim of security tags being removed (the store has never used security tags), the friends and family saying that they never saw any merchandise, the fact that said merchandise is suddenly gone from the recruit's possession, etc....

Accepting statements from recruits without any proof is what is the real scary thing, no matter what school you're a fan of.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:35 pm to
Will someone rid me of this meddlesome recruit?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:35 pm to
Why would there be sales receipts for free stuff? shite walks out the door all the time in the retail business. And how the hell can RR prove that he will go out of business in the future due to being disassociated from OM?
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3803 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Why would there be sales receipts for free stuff?


The statement was that the merchandise was rang up using a gift card (or something the size of the credit card). So, therefore, this would have been entered into their system.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 2:06 pm to
Are y'all trying to say it is not well known that RR gives free stuff to recruits and families? Like well known before this year and before Leo?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:24 pm to
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The information that the two kids are saying about them can be proven false.

By who? Barney's statements? The guy that even the university agrees with about being dishonest and cannot be taken at full value.


4. The Barney Farrar Allegations
Based upon credible, corroborated witness testimony and other objective evidence, the University has concluded that former off-field staff member Barney Farrar committed significant violations during his recruitment of [Student-Athlete 39] (Allegations Nos. 14(a)-(d) and (h)-(i), 16(a), 17), intentionally hid this
misconduct from the University’s compliance staff
and his head coach, and used multiple intermediaries in his scheme.

In doing so, Farrar acted contrary to the rules education provided to him by the University (and by other institutions throughout his decades as a Division I football staff member and coach). Farrar
purposefully and actively circumvented the University’s monitoring systems and disregarded his head coach’s
repeated directives. Farrar then follows this misconduct with incomplete and misleading testimony during his December 2016 interview. Because of his actions, Farrar’s employment duties with the University ended December 8, 2016


Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 3:35 pm to
"I want to vomit"
----- Hugh Freeze
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:37 pm to
Barney was set up by Dan Mullen as a part of the Rebel Rags conspiracy IMO
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13503 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Not trying to flame, just curious on how that is possible. My understanding of the connection to Rebel Rags is they said they got free stuff from there. What evidence will there be that they did not?



None of their stories match and everyone else (non OM related like family/friends/HS Coach) the NCAA interviewed about the free stuff denied it happened.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:16 pm to
quote:


"I want to vomit"
----- Hugh Freeze


Since he likens himself to Christ, and the NCAA investigation is the cruxifixction, and Dan Mullen is the Sanhedrin and Leo Lewis is Judas, is this Freeze's "Jesus Wept" statement?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss isn't filing the suit, it's Rebel rags. If they are disassociated with Ole Miss due to the NCAA, they are out of business. The information that the two kids are saying about them can be proven false.


How is he "out of business" just because he can't be an Ole Miss Booster? Does it change his merchandise in any way? Will his Ole Miss t-shirts no longer as good because he's "no longer a booster"?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Well for one, after Leo changed his story 2 times, he finally said that they took off the remote tags and let him walk out of the store with the clothes. Rebel Rags does not have remote tags on their clothes. Their are also video cameras and I would assume receipts kept at the store.


Have you ever actually listened testimony in a court case? Minor things like "taking off security tags" gets fudged both ways all the time. So he thought they took them off? Maybe some other store he was given free merchandise from that same day did and RR didn't use them. Doesn't prove without a shadow of a doubt that he didn't get free shite from RR.

Receipts are very easy to fudge and hide as is surveillance video.

None of that PROVES he wasn't given free stuff. It just proves he wasn't 100% sure about pointless details. I purchased a bunch of clothes this past weekend and I believe the cashier took off security tags, but it's possible the items I purchased didn't have them.
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