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re: Question re: Arkansas Basketball and the Last 20 years / Next 20 years
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'll give you one honest post chance....So here goes....
Arkansas Basketball
First Season: 1924(9 Decades)
Avg. Wins per season: 18.2
20 Win Seasons: 30
30 Win Seasons: 6
All Time win pct.: (.639 tied for 15th with Indiana)
Final Fours: 6(tied for 10th w/Cincinnati & Okla State)
NCAA Tournament Wins: 40(19th all time)
NCAA Tournament Games: 69(18th all time)
NCAA Invites: 30(tied for 16th all time w/Arizona & Illinois)
NCAA Titles: 1(1994)
NCAA Title Games: 2(1994 & 1995)
Decades w/Final Four Appearance: 3(1940's, 1970's, 1990's)
Decades w/Elite Eight Appearance: 4(1940's, 1950's, 1970's, 1990's)
Decades with NCAA Tourney Appearance: 6(1940's, 1950's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's & 2000's)
Note: barring an absolute collapse, Arkansas will make the NCAAs this season, which would mark 7/9 decades playing in the NCAA tourney. Arkansas is also on its way to its 31st 20 win season, 31st NCAA Invite, and hopefully 41st NCAA win.
Arkansas Basketball
First Season: 1924(9 Decades)
Avg. Wins per season: 18.2
20 Win Seasons: 30
30 Win Seasons: 6
All Time win pct.: (.639 tied for 15th with Indiana)
Final Fours: 6(tied for 10th w/Cincinnati & Okla State)
NCAA Tournament Wins: 40(19th all time)
NCAA Tournament Games: 69(18th all time)
NCAA Invites: 30(tied for 16th all time w/Arizona & Illinois)
NCAA Titles: 1(1994)
NCAA Title Games: 2(1994 & 1995)
Decades w/Final Four Appearance: 3(1940's, 1970's, 1990's)
Decades w/Elite Eight Appearance: 4(1940's, 1950's, 1970's, 1990's)
Decades with NCAA Tourney Appearance: 6(1940's, 1950's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's & 2000's)
Note: barring an absolute collapse, Arkansas will make the NCAAs this season, which would mark 7/9 decades playing in the NCAA tourney. Arkansas is also on its way to its 31st 20 win season, 31st NCAA Invite, and hopefully 41st NCAA win.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 10:50 am
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:47 am to Hog Leg
agree with everything you said except portis. and i'm not talking about the lotto pick part. i just think he's a damn good player and we'd be screwed without him this season- i honestly don't know if we'd have won 6 games so far this season without him. Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:47 am to Hog Leg
Has Alabama ever been to a final four?
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:49 am to Hawgeye
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Arkansas is around a top 15 program all time, even with only the small achievements since 2000
Um,no.No, they are not.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:51 am to I-59 Tiger
Yes, yes they are.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
Arkansas will be fine, and they will have a chance to return to the elite. I'm not sure Anderson will get them there, but he is providing the program with what it needs, and that is consistency.
Stan Heath should have never been hired, but he did manage to bring in some talent and make the tournament a few times. He also left Pelphrey a senior-laden team that made the tournament in 2008. Academic issues and roster management would have caught up with him eventually.
On a good day, Pelphrey is a middle of the road Sun Belt Conference coach who needs Billy Donovan to tell him where on the bench to sit and how to match a suit and tie.
Anderson is a good coach (exponentially better than the two aforementioned coaches) but he is not elite. With the style of play they can be a dangerous draw come tournament time, but they will suffer on a neutral court against more disciplined teams. However, his teams will be good more often than not, and after suffering through the Heath and Pelphrey years, that's what Arkansas needs.
Stan Heath should have never been hired, but he did manage to bring in some talent and make the tournament a few times. He also left Pelphrey a senior-laden team that made the tournament in 2008. Academic issues and roster management would have caught up with him eventually.
On a good day, Pelphrey is a middle of the road Sun Belt Conference coach who needs Billy Donovan to tell him where on the bench to sit and how to match a suit and tie.
Anderson is a good coach (exponentially better than the two aforementioned coaches) but he is not elite. With the style of play they can be a dangerous draw come tournament time, but they will suffer on a neutral court against more disciplined teams. However, his teams will be good more often than not, and after suffering through the Heath and Pelphrey years, that's what Arkansas needs.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
I believe everyone in the conference except Auburn and South Carolina has been to the NCAA tournament (expansion teams included) since Arkansas at this point. That's an awful lot of time rebuilding into the relevant program they were once.
On the flipside Alabama I believe is the second winningest program in SEC basketball history but most of their fans are pretty aware of the current state of their program and acknowledge it as such.
On the flipside Alabama I believe is the second winningest program in SEC basketball history but most of their fans are pretty aware of the current state of their program and acknowledge it as such.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:12 am to BluegrassBelle
thanks for your answer arkansas fan.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:16 am to piggilicious
Thanks for your attention to my individual post when I'm about the 5th non-Arkansas fan to post in this thread.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I guess my question is do you see the last 20 years as an aberration or the new normal?
I believe it to be an aberration (although a really, really long one) caused by some really terrible decisions. I'm looking at you, Stan Heath and John Pelphrey. I'd love for Mike Anderson to figure it out and become the long-term solution. I've seen enough to give me reason to doubt/wonder. What I do know is that unlike our coaching searches that netted Heath and Pelphrey, our program is on much better footing now, and if we did find ourselves in a coaching search, I think the tradition and resources make us an attractive place (we're adding a much-needed practice facility as well) for potential coaching hires. I do expect us to get progressively better.
After a particularly bad stretch of games this past week, hopefully the Hogs have turned a corner and can salvage the season.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:21 am to BluegrassBelle
no one else had a tone with their post though.
see the post directly below this- there wasn't even any trying to cover the tone set either.
see the post directly below this- there wasn't even any trying to cover the tone set either.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 11:27 am
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:22 am to BluegrassBelle
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Alabama I believe is the second winningest program in SEC basketball history but most of their fans are pretty aware of the current state of their program and acknowledge it as such.
This. Alabama basketball has been down for some time now, and most of us know this all too well. Many delusional arky fans continue to tout their program as "elite" and "top 15," when they are currently neither. Hopefully, both programs will return to prominence in the not-too-distant future.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
Every SEC team with the exception of USCe, lol, has played in at least one sweet sixteen game since Arkansas' last appearance.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:24 am to piggilicious
Ha. ok, ok, utterly impressed w/ Portis is probably not how i really feel. But i watch him closely, and i hear things like "lotto pick" and i just dont see it. Corliss Williamson would have eaten Bobby's lunch at 6'7". He's just not very polished and certainly doest scream NBA to me.
First i will concede that we'd be so, so screwed if we didn't have him, but that doesn't necessarily make him great.
First i will concede that we'd be so, so screwed if we didn't have him, but that doesn't necessarily make him great.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:24 am to jb4
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Has Alabama ever been to a final four?
No, what's that have to do with this?
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
Not what it used to be but trying to get back there. We still care a shite ton about basketball and that's more than most SEC team fans can say, sans KY.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
Good stuff guys, thanks for all the responses. I think Anderson will (and has) gotten you back to the point where you will be a tournament team most years and if you are hot could make a run in most tournaments. Agree that I'm not sure if he can bring you back to elite status, but there aren't many guys who can do that in modern CBB.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:27 am to piggilicious
Truth hurts I guess? But thanks for your own passive aggressive tone. It's greatly appreciated again.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:28 am to BluegrassBelle
i'm passive/agressive- that's exactly what your first post was now wasn't it? anyway, whatever countzilla- keep on keeping on.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:28 am to BluegrassBelle
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On the flipside Alabama I believe is the second winningest program in SEC basketball history but most of their fans are pretty aware of the current state of their program and acknowledge it as such.
We know what we are, a Top 40 program that should compete for the NCAA every year and for the SEC every 3 or 4 years. We don't expect to be Kentucky, but 1 NCAA tournament in 5 years should earn you a firing.
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