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Pro Football Focus All-Americans

Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:31 pm
These guys actually broke down and analyzed all 850+ games. Here are their 1st and second team AA's from the SEC. Keep in mind that it is pro football focus, so their primary concern is how a player translates to the NFL after this season.


RB: Leonard Fournette - LSU
Edge: Derek Barnett - UT
Edge: Myles Garrett - A&M
Defensive Interior End: Jonathan Bullard - UF
Defensive Interior End: Chris Jones - State
Defensive Interior Nose: Jarran Reed -Bama
Linebacker: Kentrell Brothers - Mizzou
Safety: Marcus Maye - UF




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This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

RB: Leonard Fournette - LSU

Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:33 pm to
Does that mean DH has to give the trophy back?
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:34 pm to
Post the actual player ratings so we can watch the Jizz Jar Brigade get butthurt at Barnett being rated higher than Garrett.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62732 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:34 pm to
Finally something for LSU fans to he excited about since their last game against a back up QB.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:56 pm to
I just thought it was interesting. Like with QB's they don't analyze just statistics. They judge the decision and throw itself, so whether the receiver catches the ball or drops it doesn't affect the QB's score on the pass at all. Pretty in depth and legit stuff.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:00 pm to
Clearly doesn't factor in big game performances
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:01 pm to
Where is that Sullivan dude to say that Bosa is overrated?
Posted by LandBearShark
Member since Sep 2012
446 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:13 pm to
Everyone on that list is deserving but that site is garbage. There is no accounting for level of competition in their rankings. According to PFF, the best OT in America is the right tackle from Western Kentucky.

Solid Internet research OP
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Everyone on that list is deserving but that site is garbage. There is no accounting for level of competition in their rankings. According to PFF, the best OT in America is the right tackle from Western Kentucky.



I think it would be something interesting to keep an eye on and review in a few years. I'm not sure what this group's rankings looked like last season. I also haven't seen the WKU kid play, but I don't think playing for WKU makes him inferior. For all I know he could legitimately be the best OT, they obviously like his film and skill set. Would be interested to see how he performed against the P5 teams WKU played.



Like I said. They are breaking down play by play, and looking at their moves and skills. Not how they perform in big games or when they get lucky and someone misses a block, just straight up how good they are. IMO it's an interesting way of evaluation, and the only way to really remove the factor of how good the team around the player is.



And they do account for competition played. Which is why their top OT isn't first team AA.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Everyone on that list is deserving but that site is garbage. There is no accounting for level of competition in their rankings. According to PFF, the best OT in America is the right tackle from Western Kentucky.



So mid-majors cant have great players?

#1 overall pick not long ago was an OT from Central Michigan
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:10 pm to
This is how they grade. Every player on every play is graded by an analysts and checked by two others, before being reviewed by coaches with over 400 years of NFL experience, then they are normalized.


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Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Everyone on that list is deserving but that site is garbage. There is no accounting for level of competition in their rankings. According to PFF, the best OT in America is the right tackle from Western Kentucky.

Solid Internet research OP


Not defending the site, but have you looked at the better players in the NFL, especially linemen and other utility roles? Quite a few of them came out of places precisely like WKU. Until they grow into their full frame, those positions are really hard to evaluate pre-college, so lots of smaller schools get gems.
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