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re: Power Ranking the Top 10 SEC Defenders
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:49 am to REBEL5 AC
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:49 am to REBEL5 AC
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Welllll...they did reach #1 in the nation
There's a difference in ranking a team #1 in the country because they're undefeated, and going on national television and radio telling people that they are the best team in the country - which is what he did.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:11 am to Tuscaloosa
There's actually no difference. What's the difference between ranking them #1 and saying out loud they are #1(aka best team in the country)?
Don't try to beat a dead horse. You're statement was bad, move on.
Don't try to beat a dead horse. You're statement was bad, move on.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:12 am to REBEL5 AC
A'Shawn Robinson and Robert Nkemdiche are some of the most consistently overrated players in the entire conference.
Myles Garrett only had 3 sacks and 3.5 TFL in SEC play last year. The other 8.5 sacks and 10.5 TFL came against OOC cupcakes. Until I see him produce something of consequence in the SEC, he is also not good enough for this list, in my mind.
Having Antonio Morrison on here, coming off of an ACL injury seems dumb to me, especially when there are better LBs in the SEC on many teams.
Leonard Floyd wasn't that great last year, only 4 sacks and 6 TFL in SEC play. His 55 tackles isn't all that impressive either. Unless we are going based on pro potential??
Derek Barnett - #2 of all returning players in the SEC with 10 sacks ALL in SEC play last year as a FRESHMAN. The only person in the SEC returning that is better than that is Curt Maggit, but I think Barnett's 72 total tackles is just too impressive for a freshman at his position not to be #1. I think you could argue for him to be higher.
Jonathan Jones - Is the leading INT guy from last year in the SEC (5 int in SEC play), also had 12 deflections, 10 of those in SEC play, and didn't have a lot of help around him. I don't see why he isn't up here.
There are a ton of good DBs in the conference this year though.
Just some thoughts.
Myles Garrett only had 3 sacks and 3.5 TFL in SEC play last year. The other 8.5 sacks and 10.5 TFL came against OOC cupcakes. Until I see him produce something of consequence in the SEC, he is also not good enough for this list, in my mind.
Having Antonio Morrison on here, coming off of an ACL injury seems dumb to me, especially when there are better LBs in the SEC on many teams.
Leonard Floyd wasn't that great last year, only 4 sacks and 6 TFL in SEC play. His 55 tackles isn't all that impressive either. Unless we are going based on pro potential??
Derek Barnett - #2 of all returning players in the SEC with 10 sacks ALL in SEC play last year as a FRESHMAN. The only person in the SEC returning that is better than that is Curt Maggit, but I think Barnett's 72 total tackles is just too impressive for a freshman at his position not to be #1. I think you could argue for him to be higher.
Jonathan Jones - Is the leading INT guy from last year in the SEC (5 int in SEC play), also had 12 deflections, 10 of those in SEC play, and didn't have a lot of help around him. I don't see why he isn't up here.
There are a ton of good DBs in the conference this year though.
Just some thoughts.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:14 am to REBEL5 AC
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Time to except it. Maybe Barnett took down some notes, while watching Nkemdiche in that 34-3 slashing.
I take acception to you saying that.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:14 am to REBEL5 AC
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Time to except it
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You're statement was bad, move on.
and your grammar is worse
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:17 am to REBEL5 AC
This is getting sad
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:19 am to REBEL5 AC
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What's the difference between ranking them #1 and saying out loud they are #1(aka best team in the country)?
There is a huge difference in listing a team in the #1 spot by default because they're undefeated and you can't justify putting a team with 1 loss in front of them in week 8 - and making rounds in national media verbally arguing with people that they are the best team in the country.
If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:23 am to slayerxing
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A'Shawn Robinson and Robert Nkemdiche are some of the most consistently overrated players in the entire conference.
What about A'shawn makes him overrated?
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:23 am to lsufball19
I guess you don't get it
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:23 am to texag7
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This is getting sad
I except that
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:26 am to Tuscaloosa
Where did Nkemdiche touch you? It's okay. It'll be alright.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:36 am to Tuscaloosa
Against power conference teams:
6 TFL
2 PBU
3 QBH
1 FF
No sacks. 49 tackles is pretty good though.
But I mean, basically he is just a solid, versatile space eater. He had a great freshman year and is still living off of that, IMO.
There is no way, with those stats, that you get ranked in the top 3 in the damn conference top 10 defensive power rankings above a guy like Derek Barnett who had so much more disruption and production.
It's just hype.
6 TFL
2 PBU
3 QBH
1 FF
No sacks. 49 tackles is pretty good though.
But I mean, basically he is just a solid, versatile space eater. He had a great freshman year and is still living off of that, IMO.
There is no way, with those stats, that you get ranked in the top 3 in the damn conference top 10 defensive power rankings above a guy like Derek Barnett who had so much more disruption and production.
It's just hype.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:38 am to slayerxing
Look at a guy like Jonathan Bullard for Florida.
He played inside mostly all season, but did move around and is versatile enough to play outside, and he put up:
52 tackles total and against power conference teams he put up:
7.5 TFL
1.5 sacks
12 QBH
2 PBU
In fewer games BTW than Robinson.
he was just as, if not more disruptive, than A'shawn robinson, and he is the same kind of versatile player.
But where are all his preseason recognitions?
No where. Because he hasn't been playing on a good team.
Hype is a powerful force.
He played inside mostly all season, but did move around and is versatile enough to play outside, and he put up:
52 tackles total and against power conference teams he put up:
7.5 TFL
1.5 sacks
12 QBH
2 PBU
In fewer games BTW than Robinson.
he was just as, if not more disruptive, than A'shawn robinson, and he is the same kind of versatile player.
But where are all his preseason recognitions?
No where. Because he hasn't been playing on a good team.
Hype is a powerful force.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 11:44 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:53 am to slayerxing
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It's just hype.
Tennessee's team motto this year.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:54 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:You seriously are going to go thread by thread screaming Nkemdiche is overrated but then, all of a sudden, go completely blind when it comes to A'Shawn?
What about A'shawn makes him overrated?
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:00 pm to CajunTiger_225
Harold Brantley: Better than RK.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:11 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Nkemdiche is overhyped. People are tired of hearing about him and not seeing him produce, and the "constantly double teamed" excuse doesn't hold water. Lots of guys are double teamed and still produce.
Agreed Tuscaloosa. (Can't believe I just said that.
) Double-teams sure didn't stop Chad Lavalais, Glenn Dorsey or Andre Smith. 
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:17 pm to RANDY44
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Agreed Tuscaloosa. (Can't believe I just said that. ) Double-teams sure didn't stop Chad Lavalais, Glenn Dorsey or Andre Smith.
Are you serious? Please go and look at who else were on those three lines. The rest of Ole Miss's DL has been made up of 2 210 lb converted LBs and a 6'0 240 lb DT.
You can't even compare those three to Nkemdiche's situation...unless you just want to be ignorant.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:23 pm to REBEL5 AC
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You seriously are going to go thread by thread screaming Nkemdiche is overrated but then, all of a sudden, go completely blind when it comes to A'Shawn?
Can you link me to A'Shawn being considered a #1 overall draft pick or being called the best player in the SEC?
TIA.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:23 pm to REBEL5 AC
Nkemdiche is clearly athletically talented and based on that will play on Sundays most likely, but he hasn't produced enough to be considered top 10 in the conference.
Not even close.
He had 4 TFL,1 QBH, and 2 sacks against power conference teams. That is just plain not good enough on the production side to be top 10.
Not even close.
He had 4 TFL,1 QBH, and 2 sacks against power conference teams. That is just plain not good enough on the production side to be top 10.
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