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Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:40 pm
- Heupel is fantastic. Much as I hate Tennessee they got something special in the dude.
- Nick Saban’s ability to weather the storm is underrated. He’s nearly overcome several 2-3 TD deficits or straight up won outright in his tenure in Alabama. A good bit very recently.
- Hooker and Bryce are the best QBs in football.
- QBs are now universally the great equalizer for whatever the talent disparity might be between any 2 teams. Mid 2010s Alabama-Clemson gave the rest of the country the blueprint to rise to the top in the current climate of college football. It is was just a matter of recruiting.
- College football is catching up in recruiting and facilities to the big dogs. Some armchair coach radio hosts have made a good point about this. The ratings ad deals bring attention and additional money to athletic departments gives the boosters more of an incentive to invest. Kentucky for example. Good on you Kentucky. As a side note, while it might not impact Alabama picking whoever they want DIRECTLY, your average top 100 recruit isn’t starry eyed ala….2015 per se.
- It is true that Alabama is a fricking awful penalty team and a lot of those penalties were deserved as well as a few of those penalties were just flat out awful in favor of Tennessee. That is all I’ll say on the matter.
- Alabama’s o-line recruitment is dog shite and their coaching is dog shite. I imagine they’re just trying to break habits this year (idk if it works that way with one terrible OL coach to another supposed really good one) but oh well not my concern.
- Alabama got a black miniature Joe Namath in the backfield with baby Alvin Kamara but they’re both wasted on 6’5” 300 lb blobs of jelly for blockers and a special needs offensive coordinator. Shame he takes those bitches out to dinner every week.
As a final unrelated note, if I had to put a comparison to this Tennessee team that is recent, I’d probably say 2010 Auburn to a lesser extent. They have exceptional talent in select places but elsewhere no particular name sticks out. Whether or not the outcome is the same, we will see.
- Nick Saban’s ability to weather the storm is underrated. He’s nearly overcome several 2-3 TD deficits or straight up won outright in his tenure in Alabama. A good bit very recently.
- Hooker and Bryce are the best QBs in football.
- QBs are now universally the great equalizer for whatever the talent disparity might be between any 2 teams. Mid 2010s Alabama-Clemson gave the rest of the country the blueprint to rise to the top in the current climate of college football. It is was just a matter of recruiting.
- College football is catching up in recruiting and facilities to the big dogs. Some armchair coach radio hosts have made a good point about this. The ratings ad deals bring attention and additional money to athletic departments gives the boosters more of an incentive to invest. Kentucky for example. Good on you Kentucky. As a side note, while it might not impact Alabama picking whoever they want DIRECTLY, your average top 100 recruit isn’t starry eyed ala….2015 per se.
- It is true that Alabama is a fricking awful penalty team and a lot of those penalties were deserved as well as a few of those penalties were just flat out awful in favor of Tennessee. That is all I’ll say on the matter.
- Alabama’s o-line recruitment is dog shite and their coaching is dog shite. I imagine they’re just trying to break habits this year (idk if it works that way with one terrible OL coach to another supposed really good one) but oh well not my concern.
- Alabama got a black miniature Joe Namath in the backfield with baby Alvin Kamara but they’re both wasted on 6’5” 300 lb blobs of jelly for blockers and a special needs offensive coordinator. Shame he takes those bitches out to dinner every week.
As a final unrelated note, if I had to put a comparison to this Tennessee team that is recent, I’d probably say 2010 Auburn to a lesser extent. They have exceptional talent in select places but elsewhere no particular name sticks out. Whether or not the outcome is the same, we will see.
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:41 pm to Vulcan Materials
Let’s see what Heupel does without the Hooker.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:42 pm to Vulcan Materials
Sam Pittman, Mike Leach and Brian Harsin all deserve lifetime contract extensions
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:43 pm to Vulcan Materials
Neither team can tackle or play pass defense.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:45 pm to Cooterlane
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Let’s see what Heupel does without the Hooker.
I really don't think Heupel's scheme is dependent on Hooker. He's a good QB but we are not talking about some generational Cam Newton, Burrow NFL type talent. I wouldn't count on Tennessee being a one hit wonder.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:45 pm to Vulcan Materials
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- Alabama’s o-line recruitment is dog shite and their coaching is dog shite. I imagine they’re just trying to break habits this year (idk if it works that way with one terrible OL coach to another supposed really good one) but oh well not my concern.
Last years O-Line coach was terrible, and he was fired. We went and stole Kentucky's O-Line coach in the offseason, Kentucky had one of the better lines last year.
They have gotten better this year, and have steadily improved. But yeah, they really took a step back last year and it's not a quick and easy fix.
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As a final unrelated note, if I had to put a comparison to this Tennessee team that is recent, I’d probably say 2010 Auburn to a lesser extent. They have exceptional talent in select places but elsewhere no particular name sticks out. Whether or not the outcome is the same, we will see.
Auburn's defense in 2010 was actually really good.
Otherwise, I mostly agreed with you.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:45 pm to Cooterlane
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Let’s see what Heupel does without the Hooker.
Did you see the throw from the 20 to close the half? That was Joe Milton. Ole Joe can throw it to the moon and we've given him hell for it but he has improved enormously. I've seen enough of him this season to where I'm not concerned if he needs to take over. At the beginning of the year we were all very concerned. Heupel is a legit QB whisperer.
Last season both Hooker and Milton overthrew our WRs constantly. In retrospect, it was likely on the WRs more than the QBs.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm to Vulcan Materials
Truth: Alabama was challenged by a very good Tennessee offense, but despite the inexplicable penalty bug and failure to adapt on defense to TN scheme, they still should have won that game by 10 points. It took some weird events to lose that game (the sketch PI call, Gibbs dropping that pass that likely is a TD, two missed field goals by a solid kicker)
If they were somehow to meet in the SECCG, does anyone really think TN wins a rematch on the road?
If they were somehow to meet in the SECCG, does anyone really think TN wins a rematch on the road?
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:50 pm to Cooterlane
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Let’s see what Heupel does without the Hooker.
Joe Milton will be on his 3rd and last year at Tennessee and will likely be the starter. Heupel didn’t recruit Hooker, Pruitt did. Huepel did recruit Milton and in limited play this year he has looked completely different that last year. But if Milton doesn’t work out Tayven Jackson will be in his second year under Huepel (FR 6’3 215 4*) and then there is incoming freshman Nicholaus Iamaleava 6’5 200 consensus 5* that likely takes over in 2024.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:51 pm to Vulcan Materials
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- Heupel is fantastic. Much as I hate Tennessee they got something special in the dude.
I'm very impressed with Heupel. A lot of coaches - especially when they played the game - are very rigid in their thinking. You see this in the pros, college, and high school. Hell, you see it in church league. The worst coach, often, is the one that played the game.
Why ? Because they experienced success a certain way, and that becomes the only way they'll coach the game. They'll insist on pushing a square peg through a round hole.
Heupel - OTOH - shows fluidity in his approach. Its very rare. I bet he's also good at things like checkers and cards.
Yes - Hooker could make me look like a good coach. So don't back up the Brinks truck yet, Knoxville. But I won't be surprised when Heupel gets good results out of the next QB. Then you back up the Brinks truck.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:53 pm to droliver
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they still should have won that game by 10 points.
Oddly enough the uncharacteristic fumble for a scoop and score, the gift PI call that gave Bama a chance, kept it closer than it should have been. Should have been Vols by 20 in reality.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:54 pm to ScoggDog
I'm an old bastage. I'm glad Tennesse football is back.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:58 pm to Smokeyone
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Oddly enough the uncharacteristic fumble for a scoop and score, the gift PI call that gave Bama a chance, kept it closer than it should have been. Should have been Vols by 20 in reality.
UT was +1 in turnover margin and won by 3.
The reality is that if it were even, Bama likely wins. Talking about a turnover impacting the game when you're positive on turnovers is kind of silly.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:00 pm to droliver
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Truth: Alabama was challenged by a very good Tennessee offense, but despite the inexplicable penalty bug and failure to adapt on defense to TN scheme, they still should have won that game by 10 points. It took some weird events to lose that game (the sketch PI call, Gibbs dropping that pass that likely is a TD, two missed field goals by a solid kicker)
If they were somehow to meet in the SECCG, does anyone really think TN wins a rematch on the road?
Revenge factor will be tough to overcome but Tennessee did have their fair share of mistakes too.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:00 pm to droliver
If if's and buts were candy and nuts...
Two can play that game. Tn gifted bama a scoop and score td. Bama didn't cause it, just benefited from a miscue. TN dropped 2 td passes on drives that they ended up with 0 points on. There was no PI on your 3rd and 24 that the refs gifted you a td. If we play again you might beat us by 21 or we might beat you by 35.
Do you see how this can go on and on?
Both teams had miscues and crucial calls for and against them. One of the two teams made the plays when it matters most.
Two can play that game. Tn gifted bama a scoop and score td. Bama didn't cause it, just benefited from a miscue. TN dropped 2 td passes on drives that they ended up with 0 points on. There was no PI on your 3rd and 24 that the refs gifted you a td. If we play again you might beat us by 21 or we might beat you by 35.
Do you see how this can go on and on?
Both teams had miscues and crucial calls for and against them. One of the two teams made the plays when it matters most.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:03 pm to 3down10
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Auburn's defense in 2010 was actually really good.
There was talent but there were holes too. Overall it was a bottom half of the conference defense and at that point the statistically worst D to win a title.
It exemplified bend but don't break and in the second half of games was able to effectively lock up opposing offenses. It was enough.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:03 pm to DawginSC
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UT was +1 in turnover margin and won by 3.
Tennessee turned it over twice, Bama once, I think that equates to -1, not +1.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:06 pm to Vulcan Materials
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QBs are now universally the great equalizer for whatever the talent disparity might be between any 2 teams. Mid 2010s Alabama-Clemson gave the rest of the country the blueprint to rise to the top in the current climate of college football. It is was just a matter of recruiting.
You are not even competitive anymore without a good qb. Gone are the days of running it up their throats all game, the other team will out score you.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:30 pm to MillerLiteTime
You are wrong about Hooker. He is very special. Every bit as special as the other guys you mentioned in his own way. But we will replace him because top shelf dual threads like our 6 mil giga recruit for next year love Heupel's offense.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:34 pm to Smokeyone
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Joe Milton will be on his 3rd and last year at Tennessee and will likely be the starter. Heupel didn’t recruit Hooker, Pruitt did. Huepel did recruit Milton and in limited play this year he has looked completely different that last year. But if Milton doesn’t work out Tayven Jackson will be in his second year under Huepel (FR 6’3 215 4*) and then there is incoming freshman Nicholaus Iamaleava 6’5 200 consensus 5* that likely takes over in 2024.
Heupel did recruit Hooker but it was to Mizzou when Heupel was their OC. Pruitt/Chaney brought in Hooker and Weinke told him to stay post-firing when he was thinking of transferring out.
Milton though is one of those guys who if he can rein in how strong his arm is naturally will be a killer next level player.
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