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re: Phil Steele: % of yards returning -- June 12th edition

Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:44 am to
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Bringing back 84% of a team that went 3-9


1997 Arkansas went 4-7
1998 Arkansas went 9-3 returned 92% of offensive production

2005 Arkansas went 4-7
2006 Arkansas went 10-4 returned 85% of offensive production

2008 Arkansas went 5-7(6 points from 3 wins)
2009 Arkansas went 8-5 returned 81% of offensive production

1998 & 2006 Won or shared the West

2009 Arkansas won 8 games then went 21-5 the next two years.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:48 am to
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1997 Arkansas went 4-7
1998 Arkansas went 9-3 returned 92% of offensive production

2005 Arkansas went 4-7
2006 Arkansas went 10-4 returned 85% of offensive production

2008 Arkansas went 5-7(6 points from 3 wins)
2009 Arkansas went 8-5 returned 81% of offensive production

1998 & 2006 Won or shared the West

2009 Arkansas won 8 games then went 21-5 the next two years.

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:50 am to
Looking at these numbers makes me wonder if we could beat Lsu this year. We return most of our offensive production, and they return almost none. Plus the game is in Fayetteville following a bye week for Arkansas, and it's the week after Lsu plays Bama. The Tigers could be emotionally and physically spent after a tough game with the Tide.

This has trap game written all over it.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:54 am to
Not sure on the LSU game, but I've got us winning 6-7 games this year.

The yard production returning coupled with an Offensive Line that's started a combined 75 games goes a long ways in this league.

There are some defenses on our schedule that can't stop the run to save their lives....Texas Tech, Texas A&M, to name a couple.

Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:03 am to
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Really surprised by how much production some of these teams are losing. Particularly the bottom 4.


Yup. LSU's offense was built around 4 guys last year. We'll need to spread it around a little more to be successful this year, IMO. And we'll need to find new playmakers. Talent is there, experience is not. There will be growing pains.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:16 am to
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Looking at these numbers makes me wonder if we could beat Lsu this year. We return most of our offensive production, and they return almost none. Plus the game is in Fayetteville following a bye week for Arkansas, and it's the week after Lsu plays Bama. The Tigers could be emotionally and physically spent after a tough game with the Tide.

This has trap game written all over it.

I'm glad we made lsu move the game. it sets up nicely for us
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:16 am to
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There are some defenses on our schedule that can't stop the run to save their lives....Texas Tech, Texas A&M, to name a couple.

gotta love that texas talent for defense
Posted by Tackle74
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:36 am to
This stat as a whole is misleading. A team that lacks talent and returns production still will lack talent. Meanwhile teams with solid backups moving up may be as good or even better. Use Mizzou as an example losing Franklin looks bad on paper but I do not know even 1 Mizzou fan who is not glad that Mauk not Franklin is returning. At the same time the stat has its uses. Mizzou's loss at WR is a concern.
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:19 am to
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A team that lacks talent and returns production still will lack talent.


Our freshmen were pretty talented, Hunter Henry and Alex Collins were All-SEC and Collins was freshman of the year.
Posted by slayerxing
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:39 am to
The reason these stats are so misleading is because it only takes into account production from one year.

Jeff Driskel missed most of last season, so it looks like losing Tyler Murphy and his production really hurts. But UF actually brings back their original starter from 2012 and is in much better shape.

Same with guys like Andre Debose who missed all of last season.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:45 pm to

I don't think anyone denies that Arkansas has the potential to be the most improved SEC team this year. Mississippi State is facing a put up or shut up season, in my opinion. They have the returning players to put together a 9-10 win season. If they don't, then we as a fan base must come to grips with the reality that a 7 win regular season is our ceiling.

Auburn being that high is scary. No one denies that Missouri and A&M are going to be the antithesis to Arkansas this year. LSU, while losing the most, is simply going to reload. Vanderbilt is going to be garbage. Franklin got out at the right time.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 9:46 pm
Posted by MenloDawg
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:51 pm to
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South Carolina returns everything except Connor Shaw.

Similarly, UGA returns everything but Aaron Murray. Arthur Lynch too I guess, but Jay Rome was really more of a threat receiving (which is the purpose of this stat) - but he was banged up all year.

Weird stat, you would think we were losing over half of our skill players.
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