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re: Peyton Manning's legacy
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:08 pm to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:08 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Well, those are individual awards, but his team helped him for sure. A win is not an individual award and is determined much more by the teams play as a whole.
Line had to block. Receivers had to catch. Had some pretty damn good offensive weapons around him over the years. His teams were better than some give credit. Had some good defenses at times. Probably more so than Brady.
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:09 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Tom Brady Joe Montana Kurt Warner Aaron Rodgers Steve Young Terry Bradshaw John Elway
Mannings completion % in the Super Bowl is better than every one of those QBs
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:13 pm to BigOrangeBri
nobody should ever say he's better then brady again and probably never will without being laughed at
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:17 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Mannings completion % in the Super Bowl is better than every one of those QBs
They don't put completion % on the scoreboard though.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:18 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Mannings completion % in the Super Bowl is better than every one of those QBs
So? He still didn't score enough pt's to win. Completion percentage don't mean shite if you're just dinking and dunking while never really moving the ball downfield and scoring. How many points does a team get for their QB's completion percentage?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:21 pm to unbanmepls
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unbanmepls
I think he means bust as in statues
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:24 pm to BigOrangeBri
you dont hear anybody question brady's arm strength tho do you? peyton's had a wet noodle for awhile now
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:25 pm to gatortrav88
I guess you missed last year where he had the best season ever for a QB
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:27 pm to IAmReality
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They don't put completion % on the scoreboard though.
Exactly. The TEAM has to score.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:30 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I guess you missed last year where he had the best season ever for a QB
Correction...best regular season for a QB. The "BEST" seasons always end with Super Bowl wins.
QB stats- Super Bowl wins/appearances>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>regular season stats.
We're not saying Peyton sucks. Just that he is far from being the best ever. In fact, he's not even the best QB of his era. Being a team sport and all, TEAM records>>>>>>>INDIVIDUAL records.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:33 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Being a team sport and all, TEAM records>>>>>>>INDIVIDUAL records.
For a team, team records are more important. For an individual, individual records are more important.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:34 pm to BigOrangeBri
and got embarrassed in the superbowl where the announcers actually talked about his weak arm openly 
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:35 pm to SmackoverHawg
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We're not saying Peyton sucks. Just that he is far from being the best ever. In fact, he's not even the best QB of his era. Being a team sport and all, TEAM records>>>>>>>INDIVIDUAL records.
He's is definitely top 3 and arguably the best ever. Brady's SB teams had at worst the second best defenses in the NFL.
You can't judge a QB on Super Bowl wins. It's a team game. Bradshaw was a mediocre QB and won a few.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:37 pm to gatortrav88
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gatortrav88
You're so bad at this
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:42 pm to BigOrangeBri
im about as good as peyton in the postseason 
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:53 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Bradshaw was a mediocre QB and won a few.
He's in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:54 pm to RollTide1987
Because he won a few. Just like Troy Aikman. Average QBs on great teams get into the Hall of Fame. Elite QBs on shitty teams get critiqued by everyone before eventually getting into the HOF.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:11 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Because he won a few. Just like Troy Aikman. Average QBs on great teams get into the Hall of Fame. Elite QBs on shitty teams get critiqued by everyone before eventually getting into the HOF.
This. It's good to see some on here have some common sense
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:50 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Brady's SB teams had at worst the second best defenses in the NFL.
I would argue that Brady has never had the weapons that Peyton had during his career.
Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerin James etc
Brady has never had a group like that on his team.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:54 pm to asphinctersayswhat
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Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerin James etc
You don't think Moss> Harrison/Wayne, that Gronkowski >>> Clark?
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