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re: Pat Forde: SEC no longer the king of college football
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:29 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:29 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:bingo. ive been saying the pc fairness doctrine along with regional representation to drive the numbers is all this shakes out to. gotta have a rep from each region. tv money is the winner. I can see the playoff fast becoming a farce. the "committee" is bought and paid for. im mad already.
They want 4 conference champs, and they'll get it
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:30 pm to Phat Phil
They want this to be true so bad, so bad they will cling to anything
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:32 pm to nicholastiger
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PAC 12 needs to win something
It always seems Stanford and Oregon always slip up somewhere against teams they have no business losing to.
Maybe they could just beat one solid out of conference team. What was the conference's best win last year? Nebraska maybe... Wisconsin when they pretty much got screwed by the refs? I'm probably one of the few people on this board that thinks the Pac-12 is actually close to the SEC in terms of quality teams and overall play, but in order to surpass the SEC there still needs to be a lot of improvement.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:53 pm to Phat Phil
Isn't this just another ploy to get people to click on his article. Write something inflammatory toward the SEC and SEC fans will come in droves to ridicule it and the rest of the nation will come just to find out more talking points they can use on their favorite radio call in show.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:55 pm to Phat Phil
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• The deepest pool of proven coaches it has ever had.
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Rodriguez is one of 10 league coaches who have had at least one 10-win season in their careers – in fact, he’s had three of those. He’s also one of four league coaches to have won a BCS bowl. With the addition of Boise State mastermind Chris Petersen (seven 10-win seasons and two BCS bowl wins) and the deletion of Lane Kiffin, no conference had a bigger year-over-year sideline upgrade than the Pac-12.
wow, thats a lot of accomplishments for their deep coaching
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:59 pm to Phat Phil
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Pat Forde
Loves to hate everything about the SEC. Probably has an evening reach around with Pete Thamel.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:01 pm to carolinaswamper
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bingo. ive been saying the pc fairness doctrine along with regional representation to drive the numbers is all this shakes out to. gotta have a rep from each region. tv money is the winner. I can see the playoff fast becoming a farce. the "committee" is bought and paid for. im mad already.
I don't think it's bought and paid for, but it's a regional eyeball test, and in 12 years when the contract runs out, you're going to see 8 teams and autobids for power 5 conference champs. It's why I don't see the Big 12 expanding, or anyone leaving, even though they don't have a championship game, and half their teams are jokes. Winning the conference is all that will matter. Once 8 teams are in, the question becomes do you get an auto bid for the highest ranked little 5 conference champ? I vote yes. I think Cinderella has a place in college football, and watching those teams late in the year late in the season will be fun. Will the independents get autobids(ND) if they meet a certain qualification? There will still be controversy, but the 8 team playoff will be the final format, IMO. Beyond that, and you're diluting the value of the regular season.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:04 pm to Phat Phil
Here's the cold reality about the PAC 12.
BCS Era championship appearances
SEC: 11 (5 different schools, 9 wins)
*Big 12: 7 (3 different schools, 2 wins)
*ACC: 4 (1 school, 2 wins)
*Big Ten: 3 (1 school, 1 win)
PAC 12: 3 (2 schools, 1 vacated win)
*Big East: 3 (2 schools, 1 win)
Other: 1
*Nebraska's appearance counts for the Big 12, Virginia Tech's and Miami's for the Big East
BCS Era championship appearances
SEC: 11 (5 different schools, 9 wins)
*Big 12: 7 (3 different schools, 2 wins)
*ACC: 4 (1 school, 2 wins)
*Big Ten: 3 (1 school, 1 win)
PAC 12: 3 (2 schools, 1 vacated win)
*Big East: 3 (2 schools, 1 win)
Other: 1
*Nebraska's appearance counts for the Big 12, Virginia Tech's and Miami's for the Big East
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Here's the cold reality about the PAC 12.
BCS Era championship appearances
SEC: 11 (5 different schools, 9 wins)
*Big 12: 7 (3 different schools, 2 wins)
*ACC: 4 (1 school, 2 wins)
*Big Ten: 3 (1 school, 1 win)
PAC 12: 3 (2 schools, 1 vacated win)
*Big East: 3 (2 schools, 1 win) Other: 1
*Nebraska's appearance counts for the Big 12, Virginia Tech's and Miami's for the Big East
Of course. And we look at national recruiting class rankings, and final poll rankings, and it all has a remarkably similar distribution. Auburn lost to Florida State. Georgia might get to the college football playoff this year and lose to Oregon. LSU might get there next year. Actually no they won't they still won't have a QB. Florida might get there the following year and Ohio State beat them... but it won't be a trend that goes away for very long. The SEC is King of college football and always will be. The only legitimate competitor would be if Oklahoma, OSU, Tech and tu joined the Pac-12 to make the 16. But that won't happen, and even if they did, they would just be a legitimate competitor. They wouldn't dethrone the SEC.
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:15 pm to carolinaswamper
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tv money is the winner. I can see the playoff fast becoming a farce.
Anyone who thinks the CFB playoffs are about "fairness" is a fricking moron. This has been an ESPN scam from Day 1. They push it every fricking day, because propaganda convinces all the mouthbreathers that they actually NEED a playoff.
The purpose of the playoff is to make TV money. It's to make sure the Notre Dames, the Ohio States, the USCs stay in the championship hunt longer than they deserve.
It's pure and utter bullshite. It's the ever-growing commercialization of the greatest sport on Earth. It's going to shite on tradition, it's going to shite on OOC scheduling, it's going to shite on the student-athlete model (which ESPN also hates, because they want to sell commercials involving characters like Tim Tebow & Johnny Football).
frick the playoffs. frick ESPN
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
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TeLeFaWx
Pat Forde: SEC no longer the king of college football
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Of course. And we look at national recruiting class rankings, and final poll rankings, and it all has a remarkably similar distribution. Auburn lost to Florida State. Georgia might get to the college football playoff this year and lose to Oregon. LSU might get there next year. Actually no they won't they still won't have a QB.
We didn't in 2011 either....
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
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It's the narrative the media wants.
Yep.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
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It's the narrative the media wants. I've said this for months. You'll see the AP Poll shite all over SEC teams that have eliminated themselves from Atlanta. The playoff committee as well. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. They want 4 conference champs, and they'll get it unless there are epic collapses late and they have no other choice. Part of the SEC not being king is part of that. Note how they will in the same breath, they aren't saying that the Pac-12 needs two teams over the SEC, merely that it's better. It's all an overt effort to discount two SEC teams in order to protect their regional interests. Media in LA want the Pac 12 Champ in the playoff regardless of how many wins they have, so they are already prepping for their Champ to have one loss. You'll see this kind of rhetoric all year, from every region.
This is something the SEC has fought for years and years, until finally the superiority of the conference was so damn obvious that they couldn't ignore it. Then it's time to change the system.
The committee will be like the Socialist Party.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:38 pm to Mohican
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SEC no longer the king of college football
Thanks, Auburn.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:41 pm to Phat Phil
The rest of the country is very desperate for the SEC dominance to end.
Remember when they randomly anointed USC #1 a few years ago.
The media has been banging this drum for years. It's good and trollish but also wishful thinking on their part.
Remember when they randomly anointed USC #1 a few years ago.
The media has been banging this drum for years. It's good and trollish but also wishful thinking on their part.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:48 pm to MetryTyger
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We didn't in 2011 either....
Well actually you had two.
Like it looks like for Bama this year.
Damnit. I guess that's why God invented whiskey.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:56 pm to Phat Phil
Pat Forde enjoys the wiener.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:59 pm to Phat Phil
SEC bashing is the 2nd most popular sport going these days. Big ten people have become obsessed with this conference with Pac people and big 12 people not far behind.
When I see it happen on the field I will give them their due.
When I see it happen on the field I will give them their due.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:07 pm to craigbiggio
I'll put Tennessee's strength of schedule up against ANY PAC team. Hell if they combined schedule strengths from two PAC schools it wouldn't come close.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:07 pm to Phat Phil
PAC-12 lobbyist paid for this crap
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