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re: Over/under LSU 8 wins
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:36 am to bfniii
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:36 am to bfniii
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true, but lsu is still not far behind a&m in total athletic budget and lsu spends almost as much on football specifically. moreover, more money does not equal more success. see: florida.
I don't know about that. While I agree it doesn't always mean success, money helped catapult UF from an afterthought school to a top 3 athletic program in the country.
TBH, TAMU has underachieved considering the resources at their disposal. They'll tell you they haven't always been so huge, however.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:37 am to RB10
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No, you're being delusional. LSU's athletic program is not going to lose money and fans because aTm has joined the conference. LSU has a firm hold on LA and a HUGE alumni and recruiting base west of Houston. aTm isn't going to change that
Never said any of that. This isn't about LSU declining on its own. If you have a nice house and your neighbor builds one that dwarfs yours, you still have a nice house.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
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Never said any of that. This isn't about LSU declining on its own. If you have a nice house and your neighbor builds one that dwarfs yours, you still have a nice house.
aTm is not going to cause an LSU decline either. aTm is not going to shrink LSU's income or recruiting base. You really are stupid if you think aTm is going to come in and take over Houston in the near future.
As I said before, LSU is one of the few self-sustained football programs in the country and are still one of the most profitable. Until the football program is forced to start taking those state funds from the other sports your argument carries ZERO weight.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:44 am to Pettifogger
quote:you don't understand how economics works do you? first, you acknowledge that lsu has a "large" budget which contradicts the earlier "limited resources" comment. second, what does state economics have to do with football? lsu has won more games than anyone except boise st since 2005 and is the best program since 2000. obviously, state economics isn't affecting university athletic budgets like you think
Your large budget puts more strain on the school and state than does a large budget at UF or TAMU
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:45 am to RB10
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aTm is not going to cause an LSU decline either. aTm is not going to shrink LSU's income or recruiting base. You really are stupid if you think aTm is going to come in and take over Houston in the near future.
Uh, A&M owns Houston. This is like saying "you're crazy if you think UGA is going to come take Atlanta from Auburn."
LSU does well in Houston, relatively, but TAMU increasing its hold won't help at all.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:46 am to bfniii
You're the best program since 2000 huh?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:46 am to MsGarrison
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I'll say 7
LSU will win 11 games, and you'll be the first person to say how mediocre Miles is and how he should have gone undefeated.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:48 am to Pettifogger
quote:because you don't understand how things work
I don't know about that.
quote:then how in the world could poor old lsu outperform florida the last 3 seasons? that all world florida budget should have trounced lsu.
money helped catapult UF
quote:because money isn't the only factor. see: florida last season
AMU has underachieved considering the resources at their disposal
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:49 am to Pettifogger
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Uh, A&M owns Houston. This is like saying "you're crazy if you think UGA is going to come take Atlanta from Auburn."
aTm does not "own" Houston. LSU has carved out a huge base there.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:49 am to RB10
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aTm does not "own" Houston. LSU has carved out a huge base there.
lulz
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:51 am to Pettifogger
quote:name a better one. state your criteria and why you think it's justified. you'll find lsu has as legit a claim as anybody. kind of blows a hole in that whole economics theory of yours
You're the best program since 2000 huh?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:51 am to bfniii
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I don't know about that.
because you don't understand how things work
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money helped catapult UF
then how in the world could poor old lsu outperform florida the last 3 seasons? that all world florida budget should have trounced lsu.
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AMU has underachieved considering the resources at their disposal
because money isn't the only factor. see: florida last season
Ohh, I see now. Money can't account for success on a yearly basis. Good thing you told me how things work.
I'm sure there is probably no correlation between the most wealthy athletic departments and prominence.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:52 am to bfniii
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name a better one. state your criteria and why you think it's justified. you'll find lsu has as legit a claim as anybody. kind of blows a hole in that whole economics theory of yours
Didn't you just say LSU has a huge athletic budget? You really need to nail down these "arguments."
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:52 am to Pettifogger
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I'm sure there is probably no correlation between the most wealthy athletic departments and prominence.
Are you a longhorn fan?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:53 am to junkfunky
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Are you a longhorn fan?
No I hate Texas. Texas is certainly one of the most successful and prominent football programs in NCAA history though, so it's a good point, glad you mentioned it.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:00 am to Pettifogger
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Texas is certainly one of the most successful and prominent football programs in NCAA history though, so it's a good point, glad you mentioned it.
You're welcome, and good luck with turning all that money and history into wins.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:06 am to Pettifogger
quote:no, it can't. that's why florida, texas a&m and texas sucked last year. you are guaranteeing that a&m has all but destroyed lsu and owns houston merely because of money and nebulous "resources".
Money can't account for success on a yearly basis
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:14 am to bfniii
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Money can't account for success on a yearly basis
no, it can't. that's why florida, texas a&m and texas sucked last year. you are guaranteeing that a&m has all but destroyed lsu and owns houston merely because of money and nebulous "resources".
A&M lost one more game than LSU, and they sucked?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:21 am to Pettifogger
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Pettifogger
Nothing you have claimed in this thread has been supported by facts except that aTm has more money.
If you're going to claim the aTm has better talent, better coaching, and more respect within the conference then why not provide some facts to back it up? Maybe because the facts state the exact opposite of your ridiculous claims?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:22 am to Pettifogger
quote:in your parlance they did. they are all world resources. that should be better than lsu every year. are you giving up on the ridiculous notion that a&m $ is causing the lsu decline? lsu gets plenty, plenty of great players from florida. why haven't fsu and gator $ sunk lsu? lsu gets plenty of talent from the panhandle and south alabama. why hasn't bam/auburn money sunk lsu?
A&M lost one more game than LSU, and they sucked?
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