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re: On3: The best quarterback/running back/wide receiver trios in college football in 2022
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:47 am to djsdawg
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:47 am to djsdawg
All the professionals who do this for a living and their subsequent publications got it right.
But internetuser djsdawg says they're wrong, misinformed and don't understand stats or what they're talking about. And that he's right.
But internetuser djsdawg says they're wrong, misinformed and don't understand stats or what they're talking about. And that he's right.
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:51 am to TRUERockyTop
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All the professionals who do this for a living and their subsequent publications got it right.
The stats that prove uga superiority trump anything you have presented.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:54 am to djsdawg
Nobody agrees with you.
It's everyone else that's wrong. Not you.
Definitely
It's everyone else that's wrong. Not you.
Definitely
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:58 am to TRUERockyTop
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Nobody agrees with you.
Numbers do.
Facts always trump opinions.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:58 am to Glorious
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bad case of tSoft against physical running teams (Minnesota, Oregon, Michigan, and Utah). If they fix that they’ll be scary good
Ohio States offense will probably be better than last year with WR's Marvin Harrison Jr. and either Emeka Egbuka or Julian Fleming replacing Olave and Wilson.... Marvin Harrison jr. they report is even more technically sound at this stage than his hall of fame dad. What's interesting though is that new Defensive head coach Jim Knowles safety driven defense have been very effective against their offense in scrimmages... They'll be tough.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:29 am to djsdawg
We'll continue to go with the professionals. Supposedly they have access to numbers too.
We were just as surprised as you
We were just as surprised as you
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:30 am to Marktastic86
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n the state of Texas?
No in golf.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:35 am to TRUERockyTop
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8. Ole Miss The trio: QB Jaxson Dart, RB Zach Evans, WR Jonathan Mingo The buzz: This is going off potential and not necessarily on-field production. Dart and Evans arrived via the portal: Dart from USC and Evans from TCU. Mingo played in just six games in 2021 before suffering a season-ending injury. And there’s a new offensive coordinator, too: Charlie Weis Jr. Can Weis (and coach Lane Kiffin) make sure all the new pieces fit together? Dart started twice and played in six games for USC last season, showing off a good arm and mobility (but also questionable decision-making, with five picks) as a true freshman. Evans is immensely talented; he has good speed and can run between the tackles. But for various reasons, he played in just 15 games in two seasons with the Horned Frogs. Mingo should be 100 percent and is primed for a big season. If these three reach their potential, Ole Miss could have a top-five offense nationally. If they don’t? Ole Miss could have one of the top five offenses in the SEC.
Kiffin finna eat.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:39 am to TRUERockyTop
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We'll continue to go with the professionals.
That is a nonsensical position to stick to considering there is no argument against the statistics.
If “pros” said 2+2=5, you would be an idiot to agree with them.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:42 am to TRUERockyTop
If only there was a way we could compare the two head to head. This game was in Knoxville. Be sure to check out those rushing stats for the QBs as well.
UGA at UT 2021
UGA at UT 2021
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:51 am to TRUERockyTop
By their metrics (production, not NFL draft status), State should be on this list.
State is returning the QB, both RBs, and several receivers. Some other trios on the list are simply from projections and have not actually produced much before this season. Others have new coaches, so their production may or may not be consistent from before. Some of these schools have both new players and new coaches.
State's returning QB/RB/WR have produced and State's coaches are returning. No reason to doubt State will have a good trio in 2022.
State is returning the QB, both RBs, and several receivers. Some other trios on the list are simply from projections and have not actually produced much before this season. Others have new coaches, so their production may or may not be consistent from before. Some of these schools have both new players and new coaches.
State's returning QB/RB/WR have produced and State's coaches are returning. No reason to doubt State will have a good trio in 2022.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 10:05 am
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:04 am to TRUERockyTop
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The issue you have is that nobody believes you.
You and smokeyone need to resolve your disagreements about uga offense talent.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:24 am to sofladawg
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If only there was a way we could compare the two head to head. This game was in Knoxville. Be sure to check out those rushing stats for the QBs as well.
This shows how superior Georgia's offense was to Tennessee's defense. There is no arguing that Georgia's defense was dominant last year...but Georgia's offense never had to face them.
How about how their offenses did against a common opponent? Let's say, the team that finished 2nd in the East.
Georgia vs UK Stats
Tennessee vs UK Stats
Vs Common Opponent
QBs:
Georgia - 14/20 250 yds 3 tds 0 ints
Tennessee - 15/20 316 yards 4 tds 0 ints
QB rushing:
Georgia - 3 carries 22 yards 0 tds
Tennessee - 11 carries 41 yards 0 tds
Total Rushing:
Georgia - 27 carries 166 yards 1 TD
Tennessee - 27 carries 145 yards 1 td
Total Receiving:
Georgia - 14 receptions 250 yards 3 TDs among
Tennessee - 15 receptions 316 yards 4 tds
Of those TDs scored:
Georgia - 2 of the 4 TDs were from a single player who is returning in 2022, the other 2 are gone
Tennessee - 4 of the 5 TDs scored were from 4 different players returning in 2022, the other 1 is gone
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:47 am to madmaxvol
It is interesting how both offenses ran almost the exact same amount of plays as each other:
UGA ran 952 plays, gained 6644 yards, and scored 73 TDs.
Vols ran 953 plays, gained 6167 yards, and scored 67 TDs.
UGA ran 952 plays, gained 6644 yards, and scored 73 TDs.
Vols ran 953 plays, gained 6167 yards, and scored 67 TDs.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:52 am to Basura Blanco
Ewers would be battling for 3rd string at Ohio State this year. He’s going to need a landing spot for when Manning comes next year.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:11 am to Smokeyone
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They play 2 halves of football….
Yes, and when you're up by 3TD's in the second staff, good coaching staffs run plays to burn clock and put in backups to get them experience.
That was UGA in 80% of their games last year. When you're in a tough matchup, you keep running the regular offense. UGA was in garbage time with a lead more than any other team last year by a large margin.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:22 am to djsdawg
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It is interesting how both offenses ran almost the exact same amount of plays as each other:
UGA ran 952 plays, gained 6644 yards, and scored 73 TDs.
Vols ran 953 plays, gained 6167 yards, and scored 67 TDs.
Tennessee was implementing a new offense and Hooker wasn't named the starter until the 6th game of the season. Of those yards and TDs, UT has 76% returning for 2022. Georgia has 59% returning.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:25 am to madmaxvol
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This shows how superior Georgia's offense was to Tennessee's defense. There is no arguing that Georgia's defense was dominant last year...but Georgia's offense never had to face them.
How about how their offenses did against a common opponent? Let's say, the team that finished 2nd in the East.
Georgia vs UK Stats
Tennessee vs UK Stats
Vs Common Opponent
QBs:
Georgia - 14/20 250 yds 3 tds 0 ints
Tennessee - 15/20 316 yards 4 tds 0 ints
QB rushing:
Georgia - 3 carries 22 yards 0 tds
Tennessee - 11 carries 41 yards 0 tds
Total Rushing:
Georgia - 27 carries 166 yards 1 TD
Tennessee - 27 carries 145 yards 1 td
Total Receiving:
Georgia - 14 receptions 250 yards 3 TDs among
Tennessee - 15 receptions 316 yards 4 tds
Of those TDs scored:
Georgia - 2 of the 4 TDs were from a single player who is returning in 2022, the other 2 are gone
Tennessee - 4 of the 5 TDs scored were from 4 different players returning in 2022, the other 1 is gone
This is pretty stupid.
UGA was up 24-7 with 22 minutes left in the game. UGA went into "victory formation" offensively at that point. Oddly so did UK (probably because they didn't want the score to get any worse). UGA ran 2 more drives in that 22 minutes stretch (scored a TD on one). They had 3 total pass attempts in the final 22 minutes... compared to 17 in the first 38.
Could UGA have run the offense they did up to that point, run 14 more pass plays and scored 2 more TD's? Yeah. But they had the game won and didn't bother. They didn't bother in any of the other large number of blowouts either.
UT vs UK? UT was in a barn burner where they had to run their offense at full tilt the entire game in order to secure a 3 point win. That was what they had to do most of the season to be honest.
People make the mistake thinking UGA didn't throw as much as other teams last year because they couldn't. The reality is they threw more than they ran... in the first half of games. Once they got up by 3 scores, the ran the ball more to end the game quicker and secure the win. The other teams knew UGA was running out the clock and stacked the box... and UGA was able to do it anyway because despite being a pass first team when the game was in doubt, they were still really good at running the ball.
The NC game showed that. When you count sacks/scrambles as intended passes... UGA intended to pass 34 times in the NC and intended to run 22 times. That's what UGA does when the game isn't a blowout in UGA's favor. UGA just had a lot of blowouts last year.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:35 am to DawginSC
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This is pretty stupid.
UGA was up 24-7 with 22 minutes left in the game. UGA went into "victory formation" offensively at that point. Oddly so did UK (probably because they didn't want the score to get any worse). UGA ran 2 more drives in that 22 minutes stretch (scored a TD on one). They had 3 total pass attempts in the final 22 minutes... compared to 17 in the first 38.
The most interesting stat comparing the two games Time of Possession.
UT TOP vs UK 13:52. UT scored 45 points in less than 14 minutes of possession. That equates to just over 3 points per minute of offense.
UGA TOP vs UK 22:13. UGA scored 30 points in just over 22 minutes. That equates to right around 1.3 points per minute of offense.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:58 am to DawginSC
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garbage time
It was very funny with sm1 started arguing against himself about the idea of garbage time.
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