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Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
862 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:00 pm
Catching up on the NCAA's case against Tennessee, these folks really love losing in court, huh?

I guess the 9-0 decision in the Alston case wasn't enough. NCAA prez Charlie Baker himself has said schools need more control with NIL and (HIS PLAN!) it would move in-house.

Tennessee (and Florida, too) has every right to vigorously fight the allegations.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:09 pm to
The Loganville Johnny's Pizza sucks. The Grayson location is wonderful.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:10 pm to
You realize the Alston case has nothing to do with this correct? That case said the NCAA could not prevent student athletes from getting NIL money. The issue is not the kid received money but NCAA rules that violate recruiting are. No where have I seen the NCAA said Nico could not get NIL money.


Do not confuse the two cases because UT may have gotten caught buying recruits which the judges never mentioned that or ruled on it.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
189 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:17 pm to
Look at this Bama poster below not realizing a deal was made between Nico and Spyre BEFORE committing to a school of choice.

Ignorance at it's best and fears sucking is about to begin for them
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:21 pm to
Florida's case makes absolutely no sense.

At the time, state law forbade schools from coordinating on NIL deals. How can the school be responsible for something it was legally prohibited from being responsible for?
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
189 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:26 pm to
And that's why Florida will be joining the lawsuit. If the university had no direct contact with the recruit, then it's fair game.

NILs are not supposed to be directly paid through the school.
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
862 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:31 pm to
Go to Fratelli’s NY Style Pizza and Restaurant. Pizzas, steaks and Seafood great food.
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
862 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:35 pm to
Why would Tennessee buy players with the NIL?? That doesn’t make sense. Plus 6 months ago NCAA said Tennessee had the perfect example of the NIL ran program.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Go to Fratelli’s NY Style Pizza and Restaurant. Pizzas, steaks and Seafood great food.


I haven't been myself, but that's who supplies pizza for my kid's nearby private school on Pizza day. He gives it high marks. Do they have a full bar?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

NCAA said Tennessee had the perfect example of the NIL ran program.


Let’s see that quote
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15921 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

NCAA rules that violate recruiting are.


What do you feel was the violation?
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
189 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:45 pm to
Can he list the recruiting violations that Bama was committing but didn't get busted by the NCAA because they were throwing money bags towards their direction?
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1633 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:46 pm to
In my opinion it doesn't matter if a rule was broken. All NIL rules via NCAA are anti-trust violations as they would naturally prohibit NIL activity. Brett Kavanaugh said as much. Most people see it. You can frame as a Tennessee violation, but if NIL is anywhere in the argument, it's a loser.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
7677 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:47 pm to
Tennessee: It wasn't our fault we're not smart enough to understand your rules, NCAA.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:10 pm to
The NCAA is not coming after UT because Nico has a NIL deal. The issue stems from boosters allegedly providing impermissible benefits on behalf of UT for a recruit during the recruiting process.

The Alston case in reference does not discuss or even considered if a school could use NIL to recruit it just said the NCAA could not create any rule preventing NIL deals with players and third parties for NIL contracts. The case or the courts have given no indication that universities can violate NCAA recruiting rules including allowing NIL to be used as an enticement.

Again different issues here but the NCAA still has to prove what is being alleged is a violation. I was just pointing out that the Alston has no value as a reference here.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:17 pm to
If what is being reported is correct it has nothing to do with NIL. All the courts said is the NCAA does not have the power to prevent NIL contracts between an athlete and a third party.

Even Kavanaugh which I read his opinion along with the ruling said the NCAA as an organization can not prevent NIL as previous mentioned and to do so future consideration would not be in their favor. Again the NCAA does not have the authority but the courts never said that NIL could not be challenged or change via law as created. Just the NCAA


But again a moot point as this has nothing to do with NIL or anti trust
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:20 pm to
UT fans seem to be using the NIL ruling by the courts as a shield but the NCAA is not challenging the courts here or focusing on Nico’s NIL because of the ruling they know they will not stand a chance. They are focusing on rules they do have the authority to enforce in regard to recruiting violations.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 5:22 pm
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
2532 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

The NCAA is not coming after UT because Nico has a NIL deal. The issue stems from boosters allegedly providing impermissible benefits on behalf of UT for a recruit during the recruiting process.




Spyre flying Nico out to talk business is not an impermissible benefit.

Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:28 pm to
These UGA and GUMP posters are scared shltless of Nico.

A month ago it was "who cares he sucks"...now it's "NO HE CAN'T PLAY HE MUST BE RULED INELIGIBLE".

Scared fking shltless.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:29 pm to
Why are you laughing at me as I said what is being reported is an alleged benefit.

The NCAA is not foolish enough to make this solely about NIL even if they were trying to backdoor in away to deal with NIL.

In the end though if the powers to be were not concerned all the grandstanding and organizing lawsuits would not be needed. UT powers are nervous and it shows

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