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Ole Miss Fans...Happy with your Win??

Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:09 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:09 am
Just curious... What are your thoughts about your team? Were you happy with Snead's play? What are your thoughts about Memphis??
Posted by mmjones87
we so cold
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:11 am to
No. The defense didnt tackle and the offense and Snead looked awful till the 4th quarter.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25289 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:17 am to
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What are your thoughts about your team?


We have a good defense. OL still not completely settled. DBs are underrated (Memphis only had 150 passing yards) but LBs missed too many tackles. In the past a game like that would've gone down to the wire. We turned the ball over 3 times and still scored 45.

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Were you happy with Snead's play?


Meh, his decision making was subpar. He was out of sync but our play calling was very questionable. He forced too many throws ala early last season.

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What are your thoughts about Memphis??



Memphis is a solid team, they have some talented players and transfers from good programs. Their style of play is hard to defend.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:28 am to
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Billy Mays


Glad to see the input...I missed the game, but I did read WRT's synopsis...

I'm glad you can tell it like it is and not write a 3 page excuse
Posted by oxpatchreb
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
866 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:49 am to
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Billy Mays


+1. Agree with everything you posted. We had bright spots and we had dark spots. In the past, we would've let it get us down and ended up grinding down to a close loss. This years team expects to win, regardless of how we play for most of the game.


I give Memphis alot of credit for disrupting our game plan and putting our offense off balance for the first half. Their fans however, are garbage and deserve to be driven off a cliff in a city buss lined with switch blade knives and glass bottles full of sulfuric acid.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:51 am to
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our play calling was very questionable

It was pretty bad IMO. In fact, I laughed at times while watching the game when I thought about Elisha calling Kent Austin a genius.
Posted by oxpatchreb
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
866 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:56 am to
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It was pretty bad IMO. In fact, I laughed at times while watching the game when I thought about Elisha calling Kent Austin a genius.


Dude, it's the first game against a team we should beat whether we run 4 plays over and over or the entire play book.


Nutt (and Kent for that matter), aren't idiots. They are going to run as close to vanilla as possible for as long as they can in the early season. At least, that's the smart thing to do.

To put it another way. If SC uses game film from Mem and SELA to prepare for us, they're going to get the shite kicked out of them.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:57 am to
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It was pretty bad IMO. In fact, I laughed at times while watching the game when I thought about Elisha calling Kent Austin a genius.


Yet we still won by 31. The playcalling was bland because the coaches knew we'd still win with bland playcalling. The wacky stuff (Wild Rebel, double reverses, fake punts) y'all saw towards the end of last season won't be broken out until SEC play. I can guarantee that.

Furthermore, it was revealed today that a whole slew of the football team has the swine flu. Johnny Brown, the starting SS, was vomiting on the sidelines but still managed 15 tackles and a pick. If we have STARTERS with the FLU balling out of control, even if it was against Memphis, we'll be fine.

Snead had a very rocky start. He did last season as well. Let's hope he finds his groove sooner rather than later.

Once again, we won by 31. People talk about that game as if we didn't beat the shite out of Memphis. We did and that's all that matters. Remember, this Memphis team was returning their top passer, rusher, and receivers from a team which went bowling last year. They're not exactly MO St. or WKU.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:59 am to
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Snead had a very rocky start. He did last season as well


Last year ok...This year, that excuse won't fly

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Once again, we won by 31


I didn't watch the game...but wasn't it like 24-14 with 5 minutes or so left...(That I gathered from scanning posts)

Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:00 am to
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No. The defense didnt tackle and the offense and Snead looked awful till the 4th quarter.


The LINEBACKERS didn't tackle. The DL would blow a play up giving the 'backers perfect opportunities to stop the play at the line of scrimmage or maybe a yard or so after. The 'backers blew it by not wrapping the hell up. John Cornell laying his shoulder into Curtis Steele in the endzone instead of wrapping him up cost us a safety, IMO.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:00 am to
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Dude, it's the first game against a team we should beat


Dude, you weren't really beating them and he kept throwing the ball on 1st and 2nd downs after 2 picks and Snead going for like 5 of 12. You were doing pretty good on the ground and obviously your line could eventually wear them down. So why keep throwing? Vanilla has nothign to do with it.
Posted by bcshog
arkansas
Member since Jul 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:01 am to
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It was pretty bad IMO. In fact, I laughed at times while watching the game when I thought about Elisha calling Kent Austin a genius.


You obviously have a lot to learn about Houston Nutt. WHen a play call is good, it was made without his input, when something goes wrong, he did it all by himself.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:03 am to
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I didn't watch the game...but wasn't it like 24-14 with 5 minutes or so left...(That I gathered from scanning posts)


Yes. One touch was a nice Snead pass over the middle to Summers. Then the next touch was the result of Greg f'in Hardy forcing Arkelon Hall to fumble and then recovering it (totally badass) on the Mem 15 or so. Next play, Snead connects with McCluster. Then the final Rebel play of the day was Enrique Davis slashing the Memphis D for a 29 yard TD on 3rd and long with 10 seconds or so to go.

So really, there was a legitimate drive-culminating touchdown, a touchdown a minute later off of a badass defensive play by Hardy, and a touchdown in garbage time (with our 3rd stringers in).
Posted by oxpatchreb
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
866 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:06 am to
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So why keep throwing? Vanilla has nothign to do with it.


2 reasons.

1) You don't give up on your star QB because he's having a rough (flu) day. You instill confidence in him by giving him the ball and telling him that it's his team. By sitting him down, or going straight to the run, you are telling him that he's not good enough to handle it and that we can't win with him under center.

2) By at least putting the ball in the air, you make the secondary have to think about the pass. Just the threat of Jevan throwing was enough to allow our RB's to get to the second level. By folding up the pass game, we'd have given memphis the ability to play 8 in the box. We'd probably still have won, but it would have been even uglier and by only 3.


We did the right thing on Sunday. It wasn't pretty, but it was right. If I'm wrong, and we saw everything we have on Sunday, this year will suck elephant sack.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:13 am to
Who said anything about giving up on your QB, esp. Snead? You establish the running game to open up the passing for him when he's struggling. You want me to comment on your No. 2 too?
Posted by oxpatchreb
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
866 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:47 am to
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So why keep throwing?



I'm sorry. I took this to mean stop throwing the ball. If we stop throwing the ball..... what else is there to do? Run annnnndddd.... This is, by default, giving up on the passing game and since Snead is the QB, giving up on him for the rest of the game.

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You establish the running game to open up the passing for him when he's struggling.


Uh, well, you just asked why we kept throwing... um, I'm kind of confused, is there, am I missing something!?!?

And no, you are NOT allowed to comment on my bathroom habits.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 10:49 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:51 am to
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I'm kind of confused, is there, am I missing something!?

Yeah, like the first part of my post when I said throwing on 1st and 2nd.
Posted by oxpatchreb
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
866 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:56 am to
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Yeah, like the first part of my post when I said throwing on 1st and 2nd.


AH, roger. So you think it's a good idea to run on 1st and 2nd every series, to open up the pass on 3rd? Yeeeeeaaaaah, I'm just not sure about that right now. You sure your not a Hawg fan?

I'd prefer that our coach stick with what got us here and continue to trust his all-star QB with what ever strategy works.

For the record, I was talking about entire game strategery and you were talking about series strategery. Either way, my point is that just because JS was having a bad half (really, only a bad 2nd qtr) doesn't mean that you panic and change your gameplan. Nutt/Austin kept putting the ball in Jevans hands and he eventually came around. That's what they SHOULD have done.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 11:10 am to
No, i was thinking you run on first and/or 2nd trying to create a short yardage situation for 3rd since you were doing good on the ground. That will give you more options than 2 incomplete passes so you're 3rd and long and memphis expecting what's coming. It also helps with time of possesion.

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Either way, my point is that just because JS was having a bad half (really, only a bad 2nd qtr) doesn't mean that you panic and change your gameplan.

No he was having a bad game period till it was out of hand for Memphis. Sometimes you do have to change your gameplan. It's called adjustments.

Jevan didnt' come around until it was garbage time. One example i can think of was the TD pass to dexter. They were in man expecting you to run out the clock.
Posted by BCrew
Oxford
Member since Sep 2008
556 posts
Posted on 9/8/09 at 11:18 am to
My thoughts are that it was the first game of the year. I know thats not really an excuse, but we obviously played poorly. I dont expect us to play like that again this year, but if we do (especially against an SEC team) we'll find ourselves in a tight spot. Snead had a rough start and hopefully he wont play that poorly again. He was forcing to many passes the first 3 quarters. Although we still missed tons of tackles, I think our D will still be good this year. We had bright spots but we also had dark spots. I dont accept having the flu as being an excuse because when youre on the field your expected to perform. Even though it was a kind of tight game until the last 10 minutes or so, I still think we'll have a good season. Hopefully when we open our offense up more we'll get back on track. Props to Memphis though they did a good job of stopping our offense and getting the yards they did on offense. Still I expect us to have a good season (and not just by Ole Miss standards). I still think we'll compete in the West although after watching Bama it'll be tough. Thats just my take on it though, I could be totally wrong though. go SEC!
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 11:21 am
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