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Oil price fall - is that going to hurt the Louisiana State budget?

Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:46 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:46 am
Perhaps this is more of a "perfect storm" for Louisiana State than most realize.

Isn't the petro industry a big economic driver for the state of Louisiana? Are tax revenues declining in the midst of this budget crisis?

Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:50 am to
Man, just stop. This troll isn't witty or original.


And get LSU off your mind. They aren't worth it.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:50 am to
Good lord you are dense.
Posted by reboil
Member since Feb 2010
495 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:51 am to
The oil industry is definitely the largest source of tax revenue for LA. It's really hurting the state. A lot of people are out of work and thus the tax base has shrunk and the severance tax on $30 oil is obviously much less than on $80 oil.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Perhaps this is more of a "perfect storm" for Louisiana State than most realize.

Isn't the petro industry a big economic driver for the state of Louisiana? Are tax revenues declining in the midst of this budget crisis?


It doesn't help. The low crawfish prices last season was worse for them though. Ruined their entire middle class.
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4123 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 10:55 am to
Not to mention all the money going to keep the Mississippi river from changing course.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Man, just stop. This troll isn't witty or original.


Not a troll. And I haven't posted anything about this that I recall.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:02 am to
quote:

ce fall - is that going to hurt the Louisiana State budget?
The oil industry is definitely the largest source of tax revenue for LA. It's really hurting the state. A lot of people are out of work and thus the tax base has shrunk and the severance tax on $30 oil is obviously much less than on $80 oil.


Has it stopped any of the multi-billion dollar refinery projects that the state was counting on?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33942 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:13 am to
I'm sorry it's hurting the Louisiana economy but I love the drastic decline in oil prices. I filled up my car for $1.37/gallon yesterday and it felt terrific.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64663 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:23 am to
quote:

I'm sorry it's hurting the Louisiana economy but I love the drastic decline in oil prices. I filled up my car for $1.37/gallon yesterday and it felt terrific.


yeah it's cool filling up for cheap but generally when gas prices plummet like they have it's a terrible sign for the country's economy. Louisiana won't be alone in this if things continue.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:27 am to
The oil price drop has more to do with BRIC economies, primarily China, growing at 25 year lows.

China is entering a slowdown. It will be interesting to see what that does for us.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:29 am to
I don't know about them, but it's killing mine.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:42 am to
Beyond closing one or two Louisiana campuses, this is going to crush Louisiana. Probably directly or indirectly the crash will lead to a loss of >150,000 Louisiana jobs which were relatively high paying. Lots of houses will be on the market, or foreclosed, lots of empty shops lining the highways between Houma and Lake Charles. And it isn't going to recover for a long time.. perhaps decade ... if it ever does.

This is bad not just for Louisiana but it has the potential to throw the entire US economy into a full fledged depression. In 2014 energy industry accounted for over 30 percent of S&P 500 companies direct capital expenditures across the US, and no telling how much in indirect investments. As of now at least $1 trillion worth of projects are being canceled in the US and that is just capital spending.. it doesn't take into account operational expenditures, salaries, benefits, individual insurance through company programs, etc. Over 500,000 people are now out of work across the country with little prospect because when an entire industry collapses, an oil-field hand cannot just walk down the street to another company.

When energy companies cut back, truckers, pipe manufacturers, mills, railroads, inspectors, mines, Walmart-Home Depot-random shop sales, etc. suffer.. and this is not just Louisiana, it is over 20 States across the country including Alabama, Texas, California, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc.

Here is the law of unintended consequences at work.

- Let Iran have its nukes and remove sanctions;

- removal of Iranian sanctions floods already saturated oil market with another 1.5 million bopd;

- oil prices tank taking stock market with it;

- tanking stock market destroys trillions in value impoverishing middle class.

- greenies dance in the street as coal and oil industry in the US is collapsed and millions are thrown out of work;

- LSU cancels football depriving Ole Miss and Arkansas of their jollies for the year.

It is all connected don't ya' see?
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 11:47 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:58 am to
The Saudis (OPEC) are playing high states chicken with the international energy industry and they'll win because they won't quit pumping more oil...and they've got it to pump. You're right....this is a really bad situation.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:11 pm to
My little metro added 4,800 new jobs in 2015 and is forecast to add another 5,000 in 2016. We good up here.

More poor people means more Walmart shoppers.

Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:15 pm to
The same can be said of the poor financial performance of Wal-Marks and the demise of Arkansas sports funding. Wal-marks is shutting down stores and their stock is falling.

Also, the fall of oil prices is causing GLOBAL economic havoc, not just in LA. Countries on the verge of bankruptcy are Nigeria, Venezuela, Brazil, Russia and many more.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The same can be said of the poor financial performance of Wal-Marks and the demise of Arkansas sports funding. Wal-marks is shutting down stores and their stock is falling.


Actually, Walmart hit its bottom in 2015 when they announced their wage increases.

They shut down some small-format stores to refocus. They might be the only Dow 30 stock that is positive for 2016. They're doing well. Besides, Arkansas athletics isn't funded by Walmart. Apart from Bud Walton Arena 20+ years ago, most of the bigger donations haven't come from the Walton Family. They're too high-brow these days to give a damn about something as stupid as college sports.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:49 pm to
Oh, whatever.
They try to tell you that ANY price of oil is a terrible sign for the economy.

When oil goes up it's bad news because that means the price of food will go up too.
When oil goes down it's bad because...why again?

Oh yeah, because fatcat a-hole types aren't making record profits each quarter for 10 straight fu(king years in a row.

I couldn't care less that the price of oil is tanking. Gas is down to like 1998 levels around here.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:52 pm to
Wal-Mart reported a 10% drop in sales this past quarter, if I remember correctly.

To the heirs of Wal-Mart, this equates to having lost roughly 11 billion dollars.
Then they announced they are closing 296 stores.

Truth of the matter is, they see the writing on the wall. People are getting tired of their shite. And I'm happy about that.

In the short term, Amazon outperformed them this past quarter and they are trying to streamline and go internet heavy.

Won't matter in the long run. People are finally wising up to the fact that Wal-Mart is a terrible, terrible business.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Wal-Mart reported a 10% drop in sales this past quarter, if I remember correctly


No need to rely on your faulty memory, common sense would tell you this couldn't be right.


You should get you some.


Just FYI, 4th quarter revenues were up 1.4%, which equates to a 1.9 billion increase.

They also added 33,000,000 square feet of retail space in 2015.

Yea, they just dying on the vine aren't they?

This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 1:11 pm
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