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re: Official Week 7 SEC Basketball Power Rankings
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:16 pm to CockInYourEar
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:16 pm to CockInYourEar
UGA is an average at best Bball team. It is hard to argue too vehemently in their favor. They are merely teh least sucky of the SEc sucky teams at the moment.
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:18 pm to GoldenDawg
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Then we have Missouri. We beat them at their place and they are currently 6-6 in conference play. And y'all have them ranked third.
Mizzou, still getting love from the pre conference and bunnies at, or near, home
11.08.13 Southeastern Louisiana (11-13, 6-7) • Columbia, MO W 89–53
11.12.13 Southern Illinois (10-17, 6-8) • Columbia, MO W 72–59
11.16.13 Hawaii (17-7, 6-4) • Kansas City, MO W 92–80
11.23.13 Gardner–Webb (14-12, 7-4) • Columbia, MO W 72–63
11.25.13 IUPUI • Columbia, MO W 78–64
11.28.13 vs Northwestern (12-14, 5-8) • Las Vegas, NV W 78–67
11.29.13 vs Nevada (12-14, 7-9) • Las Vegas, NV W 83–70
12.05.13 West Virginia (15-11,7-6) • Columbia, MO W 80–71
12.07.13 #18 UCLA (20-5,9-3) • Columbia, MO W 80–71 : only ranked win, but played at home - not road or neutral win
12.15.13 Western Michigan (16,8, 9-3) • Columbia, MO W 66–60
12.21.13 Illinois (14-12, 3-10) • St. Louis, MO L 64–65 : Lost to the worst team in the B1G
12.28.13 @ NC State (16-8, 6-5) • Raleigh, NC W 68–64
01.04.14 Long Beach State (10-14, 6-4) • Columbia, MO W 69–59
10 home games - played in state of MO
3 away games - played outside MO
Only 1 ranked team in 13 games
Georgia in contrast played
7 home games
5 away games
Neither the Dawgs or Tigers were filling up their respective arenas in the non conference. Folks show up to watch good opponents, and neither was scheduling tough in pre conference.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:38 pm to semotruman
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:24 pm to Wishnitwas1998
I'm a bit surprised at the lack of reaction to the new word of the week. 
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:29 pm to semotruman
I look at the power rankings based on how teams are playing AT THE TIME OF THE RANKING, and then consider who they would be better than in the conference ON A NEUTRAL FLOOR.
So for example, I don't like UGA as a team very much. At home they're decent, but on the road, not as much. I still don't know how Mizzou lost to UGA at home. UK, UF, and now UT all dismantled them when UGA came to visit, and I think UT and Mizzou are about equal. I think we'll see a similar result when UGA goes to play @ Arky.
The problem with the SEC isn't that there aren't any good teams, it's just that the SEC doesn't have any consistent teams, and UGA has been somewhat opportunistic this year in SEC play.
After tonight, UGA will be at about 0 in scoring margin of SEC games.
Missouri meanwhile is +6, Tennessee is +9, Arkansas is +10.
That's just one statistic, but I think those teams are better overall, just not very consistent, and UGA has taken advantage of that to a certain extent.
But in a POWER RANKING, I wouldn't have them anywhere near the top.
So for example, I don't like UGA as a team very much. At home they're decent, but on the road, not as much. I still don't know how Mizzou lost to UGA at home. UK, UF, and now UT all dismantled them when UGA came to visit, and I think UT and Mizzou are about equal. I think we'll see a similar result when UGA goes to play @ Arky.
The problem with the SEC isn't that there aren't any good teams, it's just that the SEC doesn't have any consistent teams, and UGA has been somewhat opportunistic this year in SEC play.
After tonight, UGA will be at about 0 in scoring margin of SEC games.
Missouri meanwhile is +6, Tennessee is +9, Arkansas is +10.
That's just one statistic, but I think those teams are better overall, just not very consistent, and UGA has taken advantage of that to a certain extent.
But in a POWER RANKING, I wouldn't have them anywhere near the top.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:34 pm to semotruman
I think it's quite fitting
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:17 am to Cheese Grits
All fair points, but a couple things. Illinois, if you've ever seen the game, yes we're well aware STL is in MO, but it is a split crowd right down the middle. I don't ever hear the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party being referred to as a UF home game because it's played in Florida. And Illinois, for all their struggles, right now today is still neck and neck with Georgia and Vandy in terms of RPI, all of them are in the mid-80s. Those three are Mizzou's "worst" losses on the year - UGA, Illinois and Vandy. We in fact don't have any losses to sub-100 RPI teams.
Georgia on the other hand has several losses to sub-100 RPI teams, and that again is part of the problem they face in terms of respect for overall body of work. They've lost to Auburn whose RPI is 151. They've lost to Davidson whose RPI is 157. They've lost to Temple whose RPI is 167. They've lost to Georgia Tech whose RPI is 146. That's the stuff that murders Georgia's NCAA chances and in my view does differentiate Mizzou's non-con resume quite a bit. You can scoff at neutral court games Mizzou played outside the state of Missouri against teams like Northwestern and Nevada, but those teams have better RPIs than some of the above teams I mention that Georgia in fact lost to.
I would add though that there's no question Mizzou, and the whole SEC, need to schedule in the non-con better. It's critical now with the league so down. Illinois is a yearly series we can't back out of and the Illini are NCAA tournament caliber more often than not, they're just down this year. NC State is only a couple years removed from a Sweet Sixteen so it seemed like a nice series but we need more games like that. The Big 12-SEC challenge needs to quit screwing us and let us at least play a K-State or Iowa State if we can't play ku. We've played another border rival in the Iowa Hawkeyes in the non-con sometimes in years past, might be time to give them a call again since they are good now. Play road games at Duke and Syracuse and Arizona hell I don't care. We need to ramp it up. But all the same, I do like our body of work this year better than UGA's up to this point. The game between us in Athens upcoming should put all the debate to rest once and for all though.
Georgia on the other hand has several losses to sub-100 RPI teams, and that again is part of the problem they face in terms of respect for overall body of work. They've lost to Auburn whose RPI is 151. They've lost to Davidson whose RPI is 157. They've lost to Temple whose RPI is 167. They've lost to Georgia Tech whose RPI is 146. That's the stuff that murders Georgia's NCAA chances and in my view does differentiate Mizzou's non-con resume quite a bit. You can scoff at neutral court games Mizzou played outside the state of Missouri against teams like Northwestern and Nevada, but those teams have better RPIs than some of the above teams I mention that Georgia in fact lost to.
I would add though that there's no question Mizzou, and the whole SEC, need to schedule in the non-con better. It's critical now with the league so down. Illinois is a yearly series we can't back out of and the Illini are NCAA tournament caliber more often than not, they're just down this year. NC State is only a couple years removed from a Sweet Sixteen so it seemed like a nice series but we need more games like that. The Big 12-SEC challenge needs to quit screwing us and let us at least play a K-State or Iowa State if we can't play ku. We've played another border rival in the Iowa Hawkeyes in the non-con sometimes in years past, might be time to give them a call again since they are good now. Play road games at Duke and Syracuse and Arizona hell I don't care. We need to ramp it up. But all the same, I do like our body of work this year better than UGA's up to this point. The game between us in Athens upcoming should put all the debate to rest once and for all though.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 12:20 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:38 am to semotruman
I remember an entire Legion of LSU Geektards wetting their panties over Anthony Grant after Brady was fired. 
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:58 am to BRAVEHEART
Apparently Kentucky took notice of their description. They shot 90% from the free throw line @Ole Miss.This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 3:59 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:06 am to BRAVEHEART
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I remember an entire Legion of LSU Geektards wetting their panties over Anthony Grant after Brady was fired
Oh, since you're the beacon of knowledge and foresight, you obviously knew the hottest name in college basketball years ago would undoubtedly become a colossal fail. Major college athletic directors will soon be flocking to braveheart's residence to seek immediate consultation on their next hire.
We are not worthy, BRAVEHEART.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 4:08 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:46 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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I would add though that there's no question Mizzou, and the whole SEC, need to schedule in the non-con better.
Yes. Florida and Kentucky are probably the main exceptions, which is why they get the love with the added losses. Even UK could tighten up their schedule by dropping any team over say 200.
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Illinois
I am okay with the Illinois game, just that they are bad this year yet they still beat Mizzou. Without the Kansas rivalry, Illinois is a solid game to keep in most years, this just was a bad year. I am okay with this game remaining, just that the Tigers needed to win it this year.
Look at the Big 2 in the SEC
Florida @ Wisconsin, vs MTSU, vs FSU, @ Uconn, vs Kansas, and vs Memphis
Kentucky vs Michigan State, @ Baylor, @ UNC, and vs Louisville
I am fine with Mizzou playing UCLA and Illinois. Just would like to see them add say 2 more teams like them, and play at least 1 top team far away from home.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:04 am to Cheese Grits
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Just would like to see them add say 2 more teams like them, and play at least 1 top team far away from home.
I can't say I wasn't disappointed in this years OOC schedule. I was. The one immediate thing that I saw that changed the makeup of the schedule was simply the tournament we played in. Last year we played in the Battle for Atlantis and played Alcorn State, Nicholl's State, Stanford, Louisville and VCU. This year we played in the Las Vegas and played Gardner Webb, IUPUI, Northwestern and Nevada. Just trading Stanford, Louisville and VCU for Northwestern and Nevada changed the make up of the entire OOC schedule IMO and is that 2 game difference you talk about.
Next year, I think we're playing in Maui so there should be some better teams in it. I think Arizona and KState are in that tournament off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:38 am to Cheese Grits
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Yes. Florida and Kentucky are probably the main exceptions, which is why they get the love with the added losses. Even UK could tighten up their schedule by dropping any team over say 200.
Alabama had the toughest OOC schedule
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:52 am to RTR America
Tennessee Vs. Missouri in Knoxville the last game of the season will likely be for 3rd seed in the conference tourney and give either team a boost heading into the SECT for their NCAA hopes.
Will be a huge game.
Will be a huge game.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:08 am to RTR America
Arkansas final 6 games
South Carolina
@ State
@ Kentucky
Georgia
Ole Miss
@ Alabama
Really need to go 5-1
5-1 puts Arkansas at 21-10 heading into SECt and 10-8 in league play. Winning a couple games and being 23-11 would at least put us on the bubble IMO.
South Carolina
@ State
@ Kentucky
Georgia
Ole Miss
@ Alabama
Really need to go 5-1
5-1 puts Arkansas at 21-10 heading into SECt and 10-8 in league play. Winning a couple games and being 23-11 would at least put us on the bubble IMO.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:37 pm to RTR America
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Alabama had the toughest OOC schedule
While I appreciate the Bama schedule, they are not winning playing it.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:42 pm to Hawgeye
quote:Seems doable. Arky plays well at home, and 2 of the away games are winnable.
Arkansas final 6 games
South Carolina
@ State
@ Kentucky
Georgia
Ole Miss
@ Alabama
Really need to go 5-1
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:35 pm to semotruman
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Beating LSU was expected.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:43 pm to semotruman
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SpartyGator and 1813, our guest votes of the week winners!
Posted on 2/23/14 at 9:41 am to semotruman
quote:I'm looking forward to next week's power rankings and graph
Just when it seems like things are starting to clear up, it happens. Again. And the middle of the conference is back to being a cluster.
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