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re: not saying I dislike BB but I'm not that into it

Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:11 pm to
I used to love basketball, but I hate how the game has changed. I preferred basketball over football, until I turned 30, which was around 20 years ago. It was after we won the national title, but still had good teams.

Now it's just a game where they hand it to be the best player and let him shoot. It may be a better strategy, but I miss the teamwork.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:11 pm to
I fell in love with basketball when Frank McGuire came to South Carolina in '64. I was 12 years old and it was like a god of sorts had come to the Gamecocks.

My first game my brothers took me to was in the old field house ... then he built the Carolina Coliseum. SC was Top 5 every year. In '71 they were the first team ranked #1 ahead of UCLA in something like five or six years ... John Roche was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, teams hated playing us at The Frank. Every kid in the state put up a backboard on a tree somewhere, scribbled the #11 on a t-shirt and that's what we did all day - played basketball.

(It's also why SC still produces some of the best basketball players in the country. Every team in the SEC has had at least one star from SC, except the new guys at A&M and Mizzou.)

I was at the game when (Maryland coach) Lefty Dreizel (ran out on the court and) got his nose broke by John Ribock for instance ... the ACC hated us because we owned the league - which is why we ended-up leaving after the Mike Grossman incident.

Electricity, there is nothing like it when your basketball team is playing, driving up and down the court going on scoring runs, playing good defense, crowd going crazy ...

Anyways, that's just me ....



Hint ... LSU has had a couple of South Carolinians, the most obvious was:



... but who are the less obvious?

Frank McGuire, one of the truly greatest gentlemen to ever coach the game. His Son Frankie, Coach used to let me wheel Frankie around in his wheel chair at basketball camp, every year. We'd have a blast racing around through the Coliseum ... those are some great memories, with him laughing and Coach hollering at me to slow down on the ramps.



Cocksucking UNC fans used to hang Frankie in effigy from a noose when we'd go up there to play. Frankie always sat right behind Coach at all the games.

At NC State they hung John Roche, Bobby Cremins and Kevin Joyce in effigy from the rafters with their heads in plaster of paris toilet bowls ... and we'd kick all their asses on the court.

Man the ACC hated us.

Bobby Cremins before he grew all that white hair.



Kevin Joyce would go-on to Captain the '72 Olympic team ... they had their gold medal stole from them by the Russians. Video Joyce could jump through the ceiling .... they didn't allow dunking back then but he would put on a dunk show at the camps for the kids.



Mike Dunleavy would go-on to a great NBA career both as a player and a coach. He was the toughest college basketball player I ever saw play the game. Always had that damn tongue hanging out those ... he about bit it off a few times. The guy's knee and elbows were permanent scabs.



So would Brian Winters ... both as a player and coach.



Alex English ... we called him "Stilts" back then because he was so tall and lanky, but the guy could score. Ended up being one of the greatest scorers in NBA history. Total class act. He's on our Board these days and still a total class act.

(I'd post a picture of Alex but Getty bought-up all the rights to his college images some years ago)

Frank McGuire .... I loved that man. He kept coming to the restaurant to eat almost right up until his death. He was truly, truly, a great great man.




Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:15 pm to
@scrooster

Good stuff!

Posted by Bbobalou
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Member since Oct 2012
5107 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:22 pm to
Upvote on the history. I was watching UF in the early 80's. We don't have the history of the big schools but had a few good players roll threw.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:27 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

redeye




Arkansas fans are great basketball fans.

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:34 pm to
It's boring till conference and NCAA starts.
Posted by Tatanka
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2015
179 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:39 pm to
I like college BB, but too many games in the season. Wake me up when March Madness starts and then I'm in.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:46 pm to
Unless a team is Kentucky losses don't meant that much.


That's my biggest beef. These games right now other than for bragging rights are almost meaningless.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:47 pm to
The officiating is just so god awful it makes the games almost unwatchable.
Posted by Bbobalou
Where the action is.
Member since Oct 2012
5107 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:08 pm to
All these shite threads on UK is killing me. The season just started.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:14 pm to
Not sure if Bert B. or Basketball.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Upvote on the history. I was watching UF in the early 80's. We don't have the history of the big schools but had a few good players roll threw.


Sheesh ... Florida has developed great basketball history recently, totally dominant there for a few years. Eddie Fogler hated Billy Donovan - he used to really complain about how Donovan changed the game through AAU ball recruiting - but Donovan knew how to stretch the rules right to the breaking point and he could recruit like a mad man.

I just don't see how any Florida fan could not appreciate good college basketball. Hell, even your women beat #6 FSU the other night - I watched the game.

SEC East basketball, both the men's and women's side, are about to get really real.

Most Gamecock fans are really pleased with what our new FM "Frank Martin" is doing ... we figure his initials and first name is a good omen.

The guy is a mad man - he brings a ton of energy to the Colonial Center.

Little known fact - when we built the new Colonial Center some years ago, it was basically styled after Bud Walton Arena. Same architect and everything. The two venues are almost identical. Bud Walton was considered, by Mike McGee at least, to be the model on campus arena in the country.

Posted by LSUrecruiting
Houma, Louisina
Member since Feb 2015
210 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:35 pm to
cool story bro
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15163 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:38 pm to
Baseball > every sport
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Now it's just a game where they hand it to be the best player and let him shoot. It may be a better strategy, but I miss the teamwork.


What a horribly, awful hot take. Ball movement and spacing is at a bigger premium than it has ever been before.

The best basketball player in the world (LeBron) has gotten chastised massively for choosing to make the right basketball play in late game situations instead of just doing it himself.

If anything CBB has had a problem with over passing. Teams choosing to turn down good shots because they got it too early in the shot clock.
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:54 pm to
It's a gayer than frick sport. I don't see how it's so popular. Watching Teletubbies is more entertaining than a few men throwing a ball through a net. And the fans at the games that cheer, scream and fart as if it's an awesome sport like football...
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Bbobalou
Where the action is.
Member since Oct 2012
5107 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:33 pm to
Don't get me wrong about not appreciating Florida players. I am a little miffed that they just ignore Vernon Maxwell. Playing in alligator alley was cool and then they moved to the O-dome.
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